Corn and Soy poll

[NatJ]

I read once something like that the apples that people ate 100 years ago don't exist anymore. It makes me wonder what the apples were like.

This is 2024. So any apple varieties from 1924 or earlier would have been around 100 years ago.

Granny Smith originated in 1868
Red Delicious apples existed in 1872
Golden Delicious apple tree was bought by a company in 1914, so it obviously existed earlier than that.
Gala and Fuji apples were developed in the 1930s (not yet 100 years ago, but getting close)

I regularly see all five of those in grocery stores.

I got those numbers from wikipedia articles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granny_Smith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Delicious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Delicious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gala_(apple)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuji_(apple)

(To be fair, the Red Delicious article says the name has stayed the same but the apples haven't. But as best I can tell, the rest of those varieties have not changed noticeably. Since apples are usually grown by grafting, a single variety generally means they are all clones of the same tree.)

I could easily believe that SOME varieties from 100 years ago have died out, but certainly not all of them. If you do an internet search for "heirloom apple varieties," you should find several nurseries that specialize in older varieties.

 

[Kenya Mwangi]

This is 2024. So any apple varieties from 1924 or earlier would have been around 100 years ago.

Granny Smith originated in 1868
Red Delicious apples existed in 1872
Golden Delicious apple tree was bought by a company in 1914, so it obviously existed earlier than that.
Gala and Fuji apples were developed in the 1930s (not yet 100 years ago, but getting close)

I regularly see all five of those in grocery stores.

I got those numbers from wikipedia articles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granny_Smith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Delicious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Delicious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gala_(apple)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuji_(apple)

(To be fair, the Red Delicious article says the name has stayed the same but the apples haven't. But as best I can tell, the rest of those varieties have not changed noticeably. Since apples are usually grown by grafting, a single variety generally means they are all clones of the same tree.)

I could easily believe that SOME varieties from 100 years ago have died out, but certainly not all of them. If you do an internet search for "heirloom apple varieties," you should find several nurseries that specialize in older varieties.

Hello Yes, it was something like that about lost varieties. Maybe the timeline was Thomas Jefferson years. I'm not sure.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Pomiferous.com a few apples. Yes, I have some trees. Annas and Golden Dorsetts

 

[Kenya Mwangi]

Hello Everyone do not be afraid to vote, nobody can see what you vote for.

 

[Tookie]

I choose to feed my flock a soy and corn free feed, with non-gmo grains, because I think its healthier. I believe that all those things are not healthy for the human body, so why should I feed my flock those foods? I know humans and chickens are not the same thing and have different needs, but I also eat their eggs, so I wouldn't want to feed them that diet if I'm consuming the food they give me. Its difficult to find feeds like this, and I'm lucky enough to be able to have access to it.

For anyone interested, here's a link to the feed I buy.
https://handhfeed.com/

 

[Kenya Mwangi]

I choose to feed my flock a soy and corn free feed, with non-gmo grains, because I think its healthier. I believe that all those things are not healthy for the human body, so why should I feed my flock those foods? I know humans and chickens are not the same thing and have different needs, but I also eat their eggs, so I wouldn't want to feed them that diet if I'm consuming the food they give me. Its difficult to find feeds like this, and I'm lucky enough to be able to have access to it.

For anyone interested, here's a link to the feed I buy.
https://handhfeed.com/

Hello I believe you completely. I think what goes into the chicken goes into the egg. I think peoples stomachs know when something is wrong. Thank you for noticing my poll!

 

[skeeeter]

Hello, personally, I love corn but can only eat 4 roasting ears at a time per day or it's "run to the potty" time. I have no issues with cornbread or corn dumplings(well except that my wife says I have to share, and cannot eat the whole fryingpan full by myself). I cannot drink soybean "juice" or "milk", cannot have soy oil in my food, nor eat soybean chili or soy shellbeans or I get life threatening liver colic.
All that said, All the old farming books I've read say soybeans are excellent stock feed and I'm inclined to believe that from experience.
All our poultry and livestock consume and digest things humans cannot or should not. That is the main reason people began keeping them in the first place.
Eggs, milk and meat from poultry and ruminants are so much more delicious and nutritious than: grass, beans, roaches, worms, snakes, etc., etc.

 

[Kenya Mwangi]

Hello, personally, I love corn but can only eat 4 roasting ears at a time per day or it's "run to the potty" time. I have no issues with cornbread or corn dumplings(well except that my wife says I have to share, and cannot eat the whole fryingpan full by myself). I cannot drink soybean "juice" or "milk", cannot have soy oil in my food, nor eat soybean chili or soy shellbeans or I get life threatening liver colic.
All that said, All the old farming books I've read say soybeans are excellent stock feed and I'm inclined to believe that from experience.
All our poultry and livestock consume and digest things humans cannot or should not. That is the main reason people began keeping them in the first place.
Eggs, milk and meat from poultry and ruminants are so much more delicious and nutritious than: grass, beans, roaches, worms, snakes, etc., etc.

Hello I wonder if you would have the same Soy problems if the soy you were eating wasn't bioengineered and smothered in glyphosate.

That made me think of another question, do you ever use glyphosate around your home?

 

[Kenya Mwangi]

All the old farming books I've read say soybeans are excellent stock feed and I'm inclined to believe that from experience.

Hello I am curious, how old are those old farming books? What is the publish dates?

 

[Kenya Mwangi]

Hello, personally, I love corn but can only eat 4 roasting ears at a time per day or it's "run to the potty" time. I have no issues with cornbread or corn dumplings(well except that my wife says I have to share, and cannot eat the whole fryingpan full by myself). I cannot drink soybean "juice" or "milk", cannot have soy oil in my food, nor eat soybean chili or soy shellbeans or I get life threatening liver colic.
All that said, All the old farming books I've read say soybeans are excellent stock feed and I'm inclined to believe that from experience.
All our poultry and livestock consume and digest things humans cannot or should not. That is the main reason people began keeping them in the first place.
Eggs, milk and meat from poultry and ruminants are so much more delicious and nutritious than: grass, beans, roaches, worms, snakes, etc., etc.

Hello I love sweet corn. If you use a Instapot it takes less time than boiling a pot of water. I eat it with butter and too much salt.