Cornish Thread

[Cedarknob]

Big Medicine, I'm not experienced enough to know what they are, and no idea what people are getting those that they call paints from, but guessing some must just be the result of a cock with one copy of dominant white bred to my DCs. I have never seen dominant white hatch such a silvery color, and don;t understand why I'm not seeing more red bleed. I guess I'll grow them out and see what happens. I'm plumb ignorant about the breeding of WC, and was only told a couple of days ago that many have used jubilee and wlr to breed with whites., A breeder, that was kind enough to share some of his experience with me, told me his original Herring cock had a couple of black feathers; and also just recently been told, by the man that sold me my cock, that he was bred from the birds Herring had left when he passed and some bought from Herring many years earlier.

Also, I've never owned a black breed with yellow legs. The black chick that hatched a couple of weeks ago has some of the black pigment broken with yellow now. The whites and darks are separated now, so if all go well I'll know for certain which females they came from three weeks from now.

P.S. I can't rule out one of their parents being a silkie cross, but most of my Cornish are a little harder feathered than most silkies.

 

[Cajun Cornish]

Does anyone have/ had Blue Cornish Bantams?

 

[big medicine]

Big Medicine, I'm not experienced enough to know what they are, and no idea what people are getting those that they call paints from, but guessing some must just be the result of a cock with one copy of dominant white bred to my DCs. I have never seen dominant white hatch such a silvery color, and don;t understand why I'm not seeing more red bleed. I guess I'll grow them out and see what happens. I'm plumb ignorant about the breeding of WC, and was only told a couple of days ago that many have used jubilee and wlr to breed with whites., A breeder, that was kind enough to share some of his experience with me, told me his original Herring cock had a couple of black feathers; and also just recently been told, by the man that sold me my cock, that he was bred from the birds Herring had left when he passed and some bought from Herring many years earlier.

Also, I've never owned a black breed with yellow legs. The black chick that hatched a couple of weeks ago has some of the black pigment broken with yellow now. The whites and darks are separated now, so if all go well I'll know for certain which females they came from three weeks from now.

P.S. I can't rule out one of their parents being a silkie cross, but most of my Cornish are a little harder feathered than most silkies.

I was funnin with you. But I'm with you on growing them out and see what developes. I have culled chicks for obvious faults, such as vulture hocks in my Brahmas, But will grow out typey birds, can always eat them, or sale off as back yard layers, or project birds in the case of Cornish. Right now it pays to have a few extra sacraficial birds around here, got some *#@% coyotes sneaking into the back yard for mid day snacks. Keeping the dogs out all day has helped keep them at bay, but I don't dare leave the birds out without the dogs.

I know Dad's white Cornish hatch out yellow to some pretty red looking, and always seemed so small compared to Brahmas. Not sure if they really were that much smaller, or if the tight feathering has an effect on down length as well.

 

[Cedarknob]

I was funnin with you. But I'm with you on growing them out and see what developes. I have culled chicks for obvious faults, such as vulture hocks in my Brahmas, But will grow out typey birds, can always eat them, or sale off as back yard layers, or project birds in the case of Cornish. Right now it pays to have a few extra sacraficial birds around here, got some *#@% coyotes sneaking into the back yard for mid day snacks. Keeping the dogs out all day has helped keep them at bay, but I don't dare leave the birds out without the dogs.

I know Dad's white Cornish hatch out yellow to some pretty red looking, and always seemed so small compared to Brahmas. Not sure if they really were that much smaller, or if the tight feathering has an effect on down length as well.

Yeah, I know you were joking. LOL My Cornish do hatch with very short down compared to the others, and two of the blacks looked to have less down on their backs than the others. They went bald there before the feathers started coming in, and looked like an old bird either going through a hard molt or one with feather mites for that week. LOL For some reason the predators around here seem to have an eye for quality.

I have not lost any for a long while, but really no thanks to my dogs. I can't say what lengths I've gone to break one from catching chickens, it might get me arrested, but I can't turn him loose unless a predator is in sight because he has no patience............................. when loose he is going to catch something, anything. On the other hand, the coyotes have been right up in the neighbor's yard killing cats, and have yet to cross the road on to my place because of my dogs raising Cain.

Here;s a side-by-side of a Cornish with one of my Ameraucana X Cornish Rock crossed chicks, hatched together. Some of the big crossbred's larger appearance is fluffier down, but they are just plain much bigger than Cornish at hatch anyway. I think the crossbreds may always look bigger, probably even weigh more at maturity, but doubt they will have that great body shape of a Cornish. If it helps to be crazy to raise Cornish, you probably have to be even crazier to keep these commercial meatbirds living to use as a cross. I even have them crossed to my Cornish now.

 

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[Meredith MMH]

Does anyone know how many pounds a large fowl cornish/Indian game is? I'm thinking of getting some jubilee eggs of Ebay.

Here's a picture of them, I think the ones in America, usually Hybrids, are diffrent to the ones in the UK

 

[Cedarknob]

Does anyone know how many pounds a large fowl cornish/Indian game is? I'm thinking of getting some jubilee eggs of Ebay.

Here's a picture of them, I think the ones in America, usually Hybrids, are diffrent to the ones in the UK

Our standard of perfection says cocks are 10 1/2 pounds, hens are 8. We do have true Cornish here in the U.S., but they are a rare breed.

The commercial meat bird commonly called Cornish Rock, Cornish cross, CX, [and unfortunately sometimes just Cornish] were developed off faster growing breeds crossed to true Cornish around 50 years ago and more. They no longer use a Cornish as any of the parent lines, and the sole resemblance they have to Cornish is very heavy muscling, especially in the breast, though a little bit of the projecting brow still shows. They have single, rather than pea, combs. They can reach the size of a mature Cornish as early as 8 weeks of age. If feed is restricted severely to slow their growth rate enough for them to live to maturity, the cocks of the terminal cross can reach 20 pounds or more. Their hearts can not support their massive bodies, and their legs are subject to problems also, when fed enough to reach their potential adult size.

Here's a picture I borrowed of a 7 month old Cornish Rock raised near me and used to attempt breeding. As you can see, even at that age, he was more of the size and shape of a good Midget White turkey, and looks nothing like a true Cornish.

 

[fowlman01]

White laced Red large fowl.

Walt

 

[Cajun Cornish]

So no one here has any Blue Cornish bantams??? Going once... Going twice... haha

 

[aviangems]

I have blue cornish bantams