Coronation orpingtons

[tgrlily]

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White is a "wild card" & can be covering other colors or patterns. You're trying to bring in both a lavender color & a columbian pattern. Lavender dilutes buff differently than black. Black split to lavender already carries lavender & is available in orpingtons, so you are going to get there quicker than starting with a color like white. I used a coronation roo as an example & because you only need one high quality coro sussex male to cover more than one split female orp. Good split Orp hens are fairly simple to find as are people with spare coro sussex roos, so I think it's easier. I know I have easier access to a coronation sussex male than a female & I already have some stunning lav & split project orp hens & pullets to choose from.

Of course you can approach it anyway you want. I've been working with Lavender Project Orpingtons for a few years & was trying to explain the path of least resistance. Contact Jody & Charlie if you want the best IMO.

 

[hinkjc]

I would agree with Renee. Our white orps have cuckoo and you wouldn't want that for a coronation breeding program.

 

[SuperPeacockman]

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White is a "wild card" & can be covering other colors or patterns. You're trying to bring in both a lavender color & a columbian pattern. Lavender dilutes buff differently than black. Black split to lavender already carries lavender & is available in orpingtons, so you are going to get there quicker than starting with a color like white. I used a coronation roo as an example & because you only need one high quality coro sussex male to cover more than one split female orp. Good split Orp hens are fairly simple to find as are people with spare coro sussex roos, so I think it's easier. I know I have easier access to a coronation sussex male than a female & I already have some stunning lav & split project orp hens & pullets to choose from.

Of course you can approach it anyway you want. I've been working with Lavender Project Orpingtons for a few years & was trying to explain the path of least resistance. Contact Jody & Charlie if you want the best IMO.

Where can I get the black that are split?

 

[cubakid]

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The reason being in many cases; Color comes from male, and type/size comes from female. but any color would not work. buff would cause unwanted yellowing which would be a pain to breed out. so i would go either with white or black.

 

[tgrlily]

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The reason being in many cases; Color comes from male, and type/size comes from female. but any color would not work. buff would cause unwanted yellowing which would be a pain to breed out. so i would go either with white or black.

Actually, it's because you need 2 copies of lav to make lavender. The coronation would provide one copy & the split Orp the second. Generally speaking, splits have better type than pure lavender. Buff is diluted by lav to make a pinkish beige, not yellow. If buff was used, it would take longer & the result would be isabel, not coronation.

I'm pretty good with the lav gene -- currently waiting for my F1 isabel Ameraucanas to lay & hoping that they do indeed produce isabel coloring in the F2s.