Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

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With all due respect The mask wearing in Asia did not prevent the spread of the covid virus. It may not have been such a big deal for some people. But for others it is a very big deal indeed.
Personally I feel the wearing of Masks should have been encouraged as one way of helping to prevent the spread of the virus but I do not in any way believe that it should ever have been forced upon anyone.
Anything that takes away from identity and ability to freely communicate IS A BIG DEAL. That is why it should have always been a volantary act.
There is a group of invisable folk who have suffered imensly in this and that is the group of folk with mental health issues. Folk with conditions like post traumatic stress. People who have been affected negatively by mask wearers in the past. This includes for example those who have had invasive surgery or a traumatic accident where mask wearing medical staff are an intricate part of that memory, Folk who have survived incidents of violence like in an invasion of property, robbery etc, or in the very extreme cases of rape and violent assults.
When you say that Mask wearing is no big deal - try to think of how someone who had been violently raped would feel when they had, had hands pressed over their nose and mouth. How difficult it would be for them to wear a face covering of any kind at all! They would be terribly affected in daily life now for example being able to pick up a loaf of bread at the store or fill the car with fuel or even go to work at all would be extremely challenging, when every one in a mask that is on their radar brings back feelings of terror and threats of violence? Going outside, switching the TV on or even lifting their mobile phone these last months has been horrific.
Sadly my own brother hung himself in October having been through quite a bit of trauma in his life and was unable to cope with lockdowns , issolation and mask wearing. So I know you find it a simple thing to don a piece of cloth and feel it keeps you a little safer but please be mindful that, that piece of cloth on your face may very well do the complete oposite for someone else.
Oes

I’m so sorry about your brother. . I hope you remember good times with him.

 

[sourland]

One thing I've learned from this past year is that a persons true character comes out in time of crisis and that the value of treating people with the same respect that you would like is so very important.

Well said, but so many can not think beyond 'ME'.

 

[Wee Farmer Sarah]

Well said, but so many can not think beyond 'ME'.

Sad, but true. That makes it more important for those that have the ability to see “outside the box” to just be kind.

 

[EmmaDonovan]

Sadly my own brother hung himself in October having been through quite a bit of trauma in his life and was unable to cope with lockdowns , issolation and mask wearing. So I know you find it a simple thing to don a piece of cloth and feel it keeps you a little safer but please be mindful that, that piece of cloth on your face may very well do the complete oposite for someone else.
Oes

That's horrible. I'm very sorry for your loss, oesdog.

I was wondering the other day about the hearing impaired who rely on lip reading to some extent to understand others and how the masks impact them.

 

[AmeliaBedelia]

That's horrible. I'm very sorry for your loss, oesdog.

I was wondering the other day about the hearing impaired who rely on lip reading to some extent to understand others and how the masks impact them.

I am only minorly hearing impaired (no hearing aides, just hearing loss and an auditory processing disorder), and I struggle...so I can't imagine how difficult it must be for those with extremely limited hearing or the deaf. I hadn't realized how much I relied on reading lips to help me "tune in" to people and confirm what they were saying until I couldn't anymore.

 

[Winter Creek Coop]

I am only minorly hearing impaired (no hearing aides, just hearing loss and an auditory processing disorder), and I struggle...so I can't imagine how difficult it must be for those with extremely limited hearing or the deaf. I hadn't realized how much I relied on reading lips to help me "tune in" to people and confirm what they were saying until I couldn't anymore.

This describes me. I am not deaf but definitely have impaired hearing. I end up leaning in to hear people this defeating the purpose of the mask.

 

[Hayden Goseek]

I am only minorly hearing impaired (no hearing aides, just hearing loss and an auditory processing disorder), and I struggle...so I can't imagine how difficult it must be for those with extremely limited hearing or the deaf. I hadn't realized how much I relied on reading lips to help me "tune in" to people and confirm what they were saying until I couldn't anymore.

Quite true. My hearing is terrible because of Meniere's Dx and a lifetime of loud hobbies. But a year ago when everyone started wearing mask and hoods at work ( ICU ) a lot of people fessed up to a hearing loss. We were socked at how many were in their 20's and partially reading lips.

 

[oesdog]

That's horrible. I'm very sorry for your loss, oesdog.

I was wondering the other day about the hearing impaired who rely on lip reading to some extent to understand others and how the masks impact them.

I can answer that to some degree. My Husband wears hearing aids in both ears and relies a great deal on lip reading. He often feels issolated and frustrated as he cannot understand what others are saying. Some folk are great and do the right thing as is recomended and they stand away at a distance and remove their face covering so that he can understand what they are saying. Others get very nasty.
I don't wear a face covering and have been subjected to many very nasty attacks. I've even been called a murderer!
Even though I am legaly exempt and carry the correct documents and am covered by my Doctor. Still I am subject to that kind of response. I do everything I can to prevent getting the virus or spreading it in every other way and yet I am frequently targeted for abuse.
Sad thing is that the folk with the bad attitudes who attack and abuse folk like me are the ones that have caused so many suicides like that of my brother and yet they accuse the unmasked of murder???? So many of us have lost loved ones through this. Not necissarily of covid but deffinately because of it! We all need to be kind to each other. We are people not chickens. We should not be singling out the weakest and pecking those to death with neasty words. But rather we should be protecting and caring and encouraging and sharing in order that as many of us survive this and survive it well!
oes

 

[cheepteach]

the medically frail and young children un masked are not my problem--it's the close to you , in your face "dare you to say something" unmasked that bother me. distance and courtesy work for me!

 

[oesdog]

Well it's the Masked - that are rude and ignorant and nasty that bother me if I'm honest. Those who cannot seem to understand that masks should be warn over the nose and mouth. Visors are not a mask substitute and should be warn in addition not instead of. That medical masks should be changed every hour as they start to loose effectiveness after 20 mins. That wearing a mask does not make the wearer invincible nor none covid transmitable and safe distance should still be adhered to. Safe wearing of masks and the correct grade masks are essential to real effectiveness, and not just screwing them up in your pocket or bag and breaking them out at every store month in month out !!!! Safe disposal is also crucial in curtailing the spread. Folk that can't be bothered applying the product correctly or washing it regularly are also the ones who dispose of them badly affecting large swathes of land and wildlife. And as we know covid jumped species unto mink in Belgium this is alarming ! If mask wearing was not mandatory only those who wear them because they want to would do it and do it well. Thus being effective. As it is it's just damaging to society in many ways. The positive affects are indeed debatable.
Oes