Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[RebeccaRN]

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Or you could read the original study

 

[KarynVA]

Oh, I did that already. The first word, "Post-lockdown" tells me all I need to know. The virus doesn't spread much after lockdown. That's the whole point of lockdowns, yeah?

 

[RebeccaRN]

Oh, I did that already. The first word, "Post-lockdown" tells me all I need to know. The virus doesn't spread much after lockdown. That's the whole point of lockdowns, yeah?

Um no the point is that asymptomatic people have an extremely low viral count and virus shed time so rarely transmit the virus

 

[KarynVA]

We're just going around in circles now. I agree what you say and what the science says, that asymptomatic spread is rare (to the extent data is currently available). It's rare, just like those blood clots that caused the J&J vaccine to be put .... in temporary lockdown ... as it were.

The point being, just because something seems rare, doesn't mean we as a society don't try to mitigate the harms and prevent damage that can happen.

 

[KarynVA]

We've talked a lot about asymptomatic cases, which we agree are rare. But we haven't said much about PRE-symptomatic transmission, which is very common.

Researchers estimate that people who get infected with the coronavirus can spread it to others 2 to 3 days before symptoms start and are most contagious 1 to 2 days before they feel sick.

That's why staying at home as much as possible if you've been exposed to someone who has covid makes sense. You may feel fine, only to start showing symptoms 2-3 days later and by then you've already, ahem, shared the virus with others if you've been out and about (especially if you go unmasked in public).

 

[Winter Creek Coop]

As I have stated before, this pandemic has been used to manipulate and control most of the global population. Fauci and his buddies have lied repeatedly yet they are still followed blindly by many. We are each responsible for our own health. For those who question the safety and/or neccessity of the vaccine, you are not alone. Your questions and concerns are not silly or invalid just because they don’t align with the approved narrative.

 

[KarynVA]

Dr. Fauci was appointed Director of NIAID in 1984. He oversees an extensive research portfolio of basic and applied research to prevent, diagnose, and treat established infectious diseases such as HIV/AIDS, respiratory infections, diarrheal diseases, tuberculosis and malaria as well as emerging diseases such as Ebola and Zika. NIAID also supports research on transplantation and immune-related illnesses, including autoimmune disorders, asthma and allergies. The NIAID budget for fiscal year 2021 is an estimated $6.1 billion.

Dr. Fauci has advised seven Presidents on HIV/AIDS and many other domestic and global health issues. He was one of the principal architects of the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), a program that has saved millions of lives throughout the developing world.

Wow, he sounds like an evil dude hell bent on manipulating and controlling everybody because then .... then .... well I have no idea why he wants to manipulate people.

Seeing as how I have absolutely no medical expertise, and he's an expert in infectious diseases, I'll happily follow him, blindly, even.

Edited to add: You have to wonder why the guy waited so long, though. He's been in positions of power for decades; he has served 7 Presidents! He could have used the swine flu, or Ebola, or AIDS to execute his global pandemic control scheme.

The dude is OLD. Why didn't he start his nefarious manipulation and controlling plan while he was still young enough to enjoy it? I guess his good works saving millions of people in poor countries got in the way. It's a shame, really.

 

[Qwerty3159]

For those who question the safety and/or neccessity of the vaccine, you are not alone. Your questions and concerns are not silly or invalid just because they don’t align with the approved narrative.

So far, they haven't aligned with any sort of facts either.

 

[Winter Creek Coop]

Dr. Fauci was appointed Director of NIAID in 1984. He oversees an extensive research portfolio of basic and applied research to prevent, diagnose, and treat established infectious diseases such as HIV/AIDS, respiratory infections, diarrheal diseases, tuberculosis and malaria as well as emerging diseases such as Ebola and Zika. NIAID also supports research on transplantation and immune-related illnesses, including autoimmune disorders, asthma and allergies. The NIAID budget for fiscal year 2021 is an estimated $6.1 billion.

Dr. Fauci has advised seven Presidents on HIV/AIDS and many other domestic and global health issues. He was one of the principal architects of the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), a program that has saved millions of lives throughout the developing world.

Wow, he sounds like an evil dude hell bent on manipulating and controlling everybody because then .... then .... well I have no idea why he wants to manipulate people.

Seeing as how I have absolutely no medical expertise, and he's an expert in infectious diseases, I'll happily follow him, blindly, even.

Edited to add: You have to wonder why the guy waited so long, though. He's been in positions of power for decades; he has served 7 Presidents! He could have used the swine flu, or Ebola, or AIDS to execute his global pandemic control scheme.

The dude is OLD. Why didn't he start his nefarious manipulation and controlling plan while he was still young enough to enjoy it? I guess his good works saving millions of people in poor countries got in the way. It's a shame, really.

The global manipulation and Fauci reference are two separate thoughts. Governments and powers that be have taken great advantage of this pandemic to deepen their hooks into humanity. That’s one thought. Then, Fauci has lied and story swapped multiple times and I was clearly implying he was untrustworthy.

Ok now do your thing. The last one was off a little.

 

[KarynVA]

The global manipulation and Fauci reference are two separate thoughts. Governments and powers that be have taken great advantage of this pandemic to deepen their hooks into humanity. That’s one thought. Then, Fauci has lied and story swapped multiple times and I was clearly implying he was untrustworthy.

Ok now do your thing. The last one was off a little.

Okay, well, it's kind of hard to respond to accusations against "the powers that be" because that could be anyone or any thing. You'll have to be more specific.

Likewise, I don't know what "deepen their hooks into humanity" means.

I'll just say this. If the government wanted to somehow control and force submission of its population, it is super easy and cheap to do. Just withhold all services that the government does for people. Tell them they have to submit or there won't be any education, roads, facilities, security, food assistance, law enforcement, regulation of food safety, etc. Wtihin months people would submit to their evil plans, easy peasy. No need to go to all the trouble of inventing a pandemic, creating a real vaccine for the fake pandemic (or maybe it's a fake vaccine for a real pandemic? I can never keep it straight!), and then pausing the vaccine because it might ... hurt people? I'm lost. Too many intersecting conspiracy theories to make any sense of it all.