Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[BigBlueHen53]

Good morning so what is your nationality?

I think we need to change the way we ask this question. (I realize this wasn't aimed at me, but it's a public forum, so ...). I'd personally prefer people ask what's my national origin. My nationality is American. I'm a third-generation American, I'm not going anywhere, and this is my country and where my loyalties lie. I am of Hispanic extraction, but that was many generations ago. I am no more Spanish or Mexican than I am Martian.

 

[sourland]

If I wanted to ask an Amish person or a Mennonite or anyone about theirs and I didn't have a relationship with them (because how could you?), I'd start by asking them if I could ask them about their religion, and if they have a few minutes to visit with me. They can only say no, right? Respect, that's so important.

Actually my relationship with these two men started with a 'Good morning and how are you' followed by a thank you and have a good day'. From there it progressed to politics, religion, and everything but sex.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

Actually my relationship with these two men started with a 'Good morning and how are you' followed by a thank you and have a good day'. From there it progressed to politics, religion, and everything but sex.

I wonder where the average Amish person stands politically. Personally I have no stance. I either want to vote for you or I don't. I research my candidates because I feel that's what a responsible voter does

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

I think we need to change the way we ask this question. (I realize this wasn't aimed at me, but it's a public forum, so ...). I'd personally prefer people ask what's my national origin. My nationality is American. I'm a third-generation American, I'm not going anywhere, and this is my country and where my loyalties lie. I am of Hispanic extraction, but that was many generations ago. I am no more Spanish or Mexican than I am Martian.

I'm also an American mutt. I'm English, Irish, french, German, native American, Italian and polish. If I were just one thing I am American.

 

[troyer]

Did your whole leave family the Amish clan, or just you?
Were you shunned after leaving?

I have a younger brother that had left 6 years earlier. There are now four of us not Amish. My family shunned us severely, at the worst of it we were not allowed to set foot on their all of their personal properties except for two of them. Those two were not necessarily friendly, but at least they didn't act like we were poisonous enemies either.
It has now been twenty years since we left and we are usually now welcome at their houses, but there is still shunning to some varying degrees. The shunning is slightly different from one family to another. There are a couple families that will not shun us at all when it's just us and them together, but if we are in a family get together group setting they will shun us with the worst. (no back bone to stand up against it in a public type setting)

 

[Hayden Goseek]

Your right that it can be a sensitive question and everyone has the right to defer.
Having made that disclaimer.

"Pure 'Merican". Family has been in S. Louisiana >300 years.
Mostly French (some Cajun).
'German Coast' (1720's) and mid 1800's German.
And my dear outlier Irish Grandmother from Indiana.
(And being south Louisiana, Who knows what else? )

 

[troyer]

Holy crap. 14 children????! That's insane. My understanding also is that the Amish don't go to the ER to give birth instead relying on a midwife. Is that true? Do they cut the cord or just let it fall off naturally? I understand that you may not be able to answer this question though.

My wife is a midwife assistant.
The Amish do go to the ER when necessary. In our area "necessary" is often left to the decision of the midwife. Some Amish preferred having a birth in the hospital, covid has dramatically changed that though and numerous birthing centers have sprung up to accomodate that.
The cord is cut at the time of the birth and clamped. The Amish men usually want to cut the cord and take care of the placenta, which usually means that it gets buried. There are some that will request that it be encapsulated and brought back to them. I don't know the details of the reason for that, maybe there's someone on here that can explain. There might be some ultra conservative groups that have no midwife input, that out of ignorance they just let the cord fall off, but it is certainly becoming less and less as there has been significant effort on all the Amish groups to teach safe birthing practice.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

My wife is a midwife assistant.
The Amish do go to the ER when necessary. In our area "necessary" is often left to the decision of the midwife. Some Amish preferred having a birth in the hospital, covid has dramatically changed that though and numerous birthing centers have sprung up to accomodate that.
The cord is cut at the time of the birth and clamped. The Amish men usually want to cut the cord and take care of the placenta, which usually means that it gets buried. There are some that will request that it be encapsulated and brought back to them. I don't know the details of the reason for that, maybe there's someone on here that can explain. There might be some ultra conservative groups that have no midwife input, that out of ignorance they just let the cord fall off, but it is certainly becoming less and less as there has been significant effort on all the Amish groups to teach safe birthing practice.

Interesting! May I ask why you chose to leave? If that's too personal disregard it.

 

[troyer]

Good morning so what is your nationality?

Schwäbisch. Picture taken from Wikipedia.

 

[aart]

We had a huge influx of Amish here a few years ago.
They left several different clans to create a new one that is more lenient.
There was a lot of education in the area to welcome them and learn as many had no real clue about the group(s).
The biggest thing I learned is that each group makes their own rules,
many rules that are rather vague and often have wavy lines.
They are not allowed to own cars, but freely ask other to drive them(Yoder Toters).
They are not allowed to have phones, but use other peoples and have booths just off their property to bend that rule.