Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[Ninjasquirrel]

People do that. But the Surgeon should do it before while 'getting consent'. This is the time to ask questions and make sure you understand.
Remember that with every procedure, there is a CHANCE of infection or even death. (There was a Chance of that on the drive to the hospital.) They have to say that so don't panic.

Maybe the place you work at is a little different but around here you sign a consent to treat form before being admitted.

 

[Hayden Goseek]

Maybe the place you work at is a little different but around here you sign a consent to treat form before being admitted.

They should have a general consent for treatment on admit.
Then a seperate consent for surgery. Another for anesthesis and another for blood products.
Your are correct though. Other places may do it differently. (I have parted company with two hospitals because they wanted ME the RN to get consent for the MD, one of them by phone the night before.)

 

[h2oratt]

So instead of just sitting there like a victim I should ask them what the label is and all that? I've never been able to look when they draw blood so I've never thought to ask. It turns my stomach looking at how quickly the vile fills up. Makes me think I'm going to bleed to death when they remove the needle

Well if you can’t watch then watch after when they put they labels on the tubes. It is actually good for you to give blood unless you are low to begin with.

 

[h2oratt]

I just had a tube put in my eardrum under general. I was quite impressed with whole experience. I was ask multiple times the same questions by many different people. The dr forgot to mark which ear so they had to wait for him to come out of OR to mark my ear. He was doing multiple small things that morning. Everything was so smooth. I felt very well taken care of.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

They should have a general consent for treatment on admit.
Then a seperate consent for surgery. Another for anesthesis and another for blood products.
Your are correct though. Other places may do it differently. (I have parted company with two hospitals because they wanted ME the RN to get consent for the MD, one of them by phone.)

I've only had surgery once in my life and it was to remove my wisdom teeth. I recall the appointment quite well as I awoke in a violent rage. They had me sign the consent agreement and put me in the chair. Then they put some sort of medicine in me and asked me to open my mouth. Then I was out. I awoke in a different room and I shouted "where is that mfing doctor? He operated on me while I was still awake!". I had to be restrained because I ran down the hall prepared to hit him in the face. Of course I wasn't awake during the procedure but it felt like I was because he started it before I fell asleep.

 

[Hayden Goseek]

I've only had surgery once in my life and it was to remove my wisdom teeth. I recall the appointment quite well as I awoke in a violent rage. They had me sign the consent agreement and put me in the chair. Then they put some sort of medicine in me and asked me to open my mouth. Then I was out. I awoke in a different room and I shouted "where is that mfing doctor? He operated on me while I was still awake!". I had to be restrained because I ran down the hall prepared to hit him in the face. Of course I wasn't awake during the procedure but it felt like I was because he started it before I fell asleep.

This is why I miss recovery room. Gangsters can wake like gentlemen and little old ladies want to punch you in the face. And 5 minutes later they can be someone totally different.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

This is why I miss recovery room. Gangsters can wake like gentlemen and little old ladies want to punch you in the face. And 5 minutes later they can be someone totally different.

I'm a tiny little woman but if I feel wronged...look out. Told my rooster just yesterday after he spurred me: "I killed your father. I killed your brother. I will kill you too."

 

[saysfaa]

The wording below is mostly quotes from the given sources but has a little paraphrasing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/health/covid-ivermectin-hospitalization.html

Together study in Brazil found ivermectin did not lower hospitalizations.

https://c19ivermectin.com/togetheri...r-for-plain-language-summary-writing-support/

Together study in Brazil

Did not exclude patients with recent ivermectin use. Ivermectin was available OTC, was recommended by the government for COVID-19, and had nine times higher sales

Treatment delay is currently unknown, however the protocol allows very late inclusion and a companion trial reported mostly late treatment.

Treatment was administered on an empty stomach, greatly reducing expected tissue concentration [Guzzo] and making the effective dose about 1/5th of current clinical practice.

Authors perform analysis excluding events very shortly after randomization for fluvoxamine but not ivermectin,

The control arm ran from Jan 20 to Aug 5, 2021, while ivermectin arm ran from March 23 to Aug 6, 2021. Treatment efficacy can vary significantly over time, for example due to overall improvement in protocols, changes in the distribution of variants, or changes in public awareness and treatment delays. Specifically, Gamma variant had dramatically higher mortality vs non-Gamma variants...

RCTs have a fundamental bias against finding an effect for interventions that are widely available — patients that believe they need treatment are more likely to decline participation and take the intervention i.e. RCTs are more likely to enroll low-risk participants that do not need treatment to recover (this does not apply to the typical pharmaceutical trial of a new drug that is otherwise unavailable). This trial was run in a community where ivermectin is widely known and used.

The trial is associated with:
MMS Holdings - a company whose mission includes helping pharmaceutical companies get approval and designing scientific studies that help them get approval. One of their clients is Pfizer [mmsholdings.com].

Cytel Inc. - another statistical modelling company that helps pharmaceutical companies get approval - they work very closely with Pfizer [cytel.com].

One of the senior investigators was Dr. Craig Rayner, President of Integrated Drug Development at Certara - another company with a similar mission to MMS Holdings. They state on their website that: "Since 2014, our customers have received over 90% of new drug and biologic approvals by the FDA." One of their clients is Pfizer [certara.com].
The DSMB chair has published a paper with members of a well known anti-treatment research group [Thorlund].

 

[saysfaa]

My sister and her husband have cared for his mother in their home for 9 months. She lived alone before she moved in with them. A year ago she was driving herself, cooking for herself, shopping for herself, cleaning herself and her home, regularly walking for exercise, regularly playing cards and reading, managing her doctors appointments and medications herself (she saw doctors for parkinson's and meds for that and high blood pressure- although she's never had high blood pressure) but had no other health issues. She is in her mid80's, and very slim.

By May, she could not safely drive, could not consistently follow her medication schedule even with notes, and was afraid to be alone.

Last September is the last time I saw her. She could not remember how to use the controls of a (very simple) microwave, and could not remember the rules of the card games she had played regularly for decades.

In November, she asked what covid is. Although the next day she said she couldn't do something because covid made it too risky. This back and forth with what she could do has been typical.

By January, she sometimes needed to be guided to pull her pants down before she sat on the toilet.

They attribute her abrupt and steady decline to the covid shots. It does not fit a stroke or even a series of strokes. Alzheimer is closer to how has it progressed other than timeframe isn't typical (fast progression of Alzheimer is two to four years from diagnosis to moderate stage) and there is no family history of it.

Last Sunday, she fell and broke her hip. The surgery went pretty well but she needs a rehab center for a couple of weeks.

All rehab centers in our area (I'm not sure if it is a state requirement but it is at least all within several hours drive) require a covid booster shot before they will admitted her.

 

[sdm111]

My sister and her husband have cared for his mother in their home for 9 months. She lived alone before she moved in with them. A year ago she was driving herself, cooking for herself, shopping for herself, cleaning herself and her home, regularly walking for exercise, regularly playing cards and reading, managing her doctors appointments and medications herself (she saw doctors for parkinson's and meds for that and high blood pressure- although she's never had high blood pressure) but had no other health issues. She is in her mid80's, and very slim.

By May, she could not safely drive, could not consistently follow her medication schedule even with notes, and was afraid to be alone.

Last September is the last time I saw her. She could not remember how to use the controls of a (very simple) microwave, and could not remember the rules of the card games she had played regularly for decades.

In November, she asked what covid is. Although the next day she said she couldn't do something because covid made it too risky. This back and forth with what she could do has been typical.

By January, she sometimes needed to be guided to pull her pants down before she sat on the toilet.

They attribute her abrupt and steady decline to the covid shots. It does not fit a stroke or even a series of strokes. Alzheimer is closer to how has it progressed other than timeframe isn't typical (fast progression of Alzheimer is two to four years from diagnosis to moderate stage) and there is no family history of it.

Last Sunday, she fell and broke her hip. The surgery went pretty well but she needs a rehab center for a couple of weeks.

All rehab centers in our area (I'm not sure if it is a state requirement but it is at least all within several hours drive) require a covid booster shot before they will admitted her.

That is just awful. Man