could you explain for my friend why these aren't ameracaunas/auracanas

[chick123600]

Tell him to try and show them as ameracaunas. That should prove the right answer to him.

 

[dretd]

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I typically tell people not to do this. Because it's NOT common that Easter Eggers are actually pure, non-standard Ameraucanas - they are usually mutts or of Quechua lineage.

Sorry, I hope I didn't ruffle any feathers here. Just trying to convince a non-believer why they should adopt someone else's terminology they don't believe in... just be respectful of other folks. Obviously even that is not looked at favorably. The problem comes about because the bird's purity is being judged on its phenotype and not on its genotype.

Perhaps the Ameraucana folks should start a real registry like they have for dogs, cats, horses, goats, sheep, cattle etc... So that this issue would be a sealed deal. Sorry, can't call it an Ameracauna if its not registered through the Ameraucana Registry.

 

[banjoejoe4783]

there are a lot of none standered color americaunas /EE that have all the other fetures blue legs /muff bead laye blue green eggs a lot of hatcherys just did not breed for color or try to standerize them I CALL THESE NONE STANDERED AMERICANAS them you have those that have been crossed and now they have green legs muffs breerds the wrong comb typ and lay green/brown eggs i call these EEs if your friend whants to call the ARs then let him have his own opinyon if later he learn other wize let him some thing is better left alone

 

[Sparklee]

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So APA approved Ameraucanas are *not* of Quechua lineage? None at all? Definitively? I'm taking notes and want to get it right. Really, this is rather confusing. Someone should make a family tree of the APA approved Ameraucana.

 

[Jchantecler]

My understanding is that all these EEs and ameraucanas are just descendants of the araucana, which was developed in Chile from the birds there. I don't think that the UK has even accepted ameraucanas in their standard. EEs are just non-standard, hatchery bred ameraucanas, and that ameraucanas are just other birds crossed with araucanas, and were originally bred for their egg color and production.



P.S. Don't you think ameraucana is a pain in the neck to spell? I mean, we could get into a heated conversation just about the spelling of the breed.

 

[nnbreeder]

From my understanding of the SOP body type counts for more then color in the grand scheme of things. Therefore if a bird with outstanding type and faults but no DQs in the color could place higher then a bird with sorry body type and perfect color.

These birds have not been on the scene very long, mid 70s I think, so they have not had the century or so of breeding like many of the other breeds have.

 

[Sparklee]

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I get your point, but other will disagree. The APA approved and named chickens have been around since the 70s 80s, depending on Araucana or Ameraucana. But this post

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=3134652#p3134652

gives a bit more history and claims Araucanas have been around for centuries.

Edit to add: I don't have a dog in the running so it matters not to me what anyone calls these "chickens."