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[Noah]

This site has good information to tell you the differences between voles and shrews.

http://www.dailypuppy.com/articles/...s--voles/8a5ae9a6-3cf4-8b09-5b55-cd66fc5cde9e

A vole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vole

A shrew.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrew

They are different.
A vole does not have poisonous saliva like a shrew does.

This is the type of shrew that we have in the yard.
I think my dog got bit by one and had a reaction to the toxins in the saliva.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Short-tailed_Shrew

Anyways, we decided not to use the coyote urine.
I do not want anymore unwanted creatures in my yard.

 

[Noah]

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The short tail shrew is one of the very few mammals that actually produces venom, however its effect on other than its normal small prey is usually locally painful at the bite site (and not all bites produce it) but otherwise very mild and dissipates with time, there is current research going on to determine its usefulness as a blood pressure reducer.

Some people can also get stung by a bee and be fine, others can die or get very sick as they are allergic to a bee sting.
I'm just always going to wonder is all.
Maybe it was maybe it wasn't.
That is what I believe happened to my dog and I'm just passing along my experience.

They are also using the shrew venom in cancer research.

 

[theFox]

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The short tail shrew is one of the very few mammals that actually produces venom, however its effect on other than its normal small prey is usually locally painful at the bite site (and not all bites produce it) but otherwise very mild and dissipates with time, there is current research going on to determine its usefulness as a blood pressure reducer.

Some people can also get stung by a bee and be fine, others can die or get very sick as they are allergic to a bee sting.
I'm just always going to wonder is all.
Maybe it was maybe it wasn't.
That is what I believe happened to my dog and I'm just passing along my experience.

They are also using the shrew venom in cancer research.

I'm well aware of the allergic reaction to a large number of things as I have allergies including to several stinging insects.

Blood transfusions however are not normally in the treatment protocols and carry their own set of risks.

 

[Noah]

She was diagnosed with this.

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=1390&S=0&EVetID=0

I contacted many vets while she was receiving treatment and not one of them could rule out a shrew bite.

If you read the article, something triggers the animals blood cells to go into "over drive."
Possibly even insect bites.

The pathology lab in PEI also could not give a definitive answer.
They thought it was possible but not likely.
I guess when your pet dies a horrible death, you just hear the it's possible and want to keep your other dogs safe.

Did the shrews do it, I will never know.
I do know that I will worry about my other dogs until these shrews are gone from my yard.

 

[Ole rooster]

The shrew may not have been the culprit, but I do believe I would sit on that side and some kind of a reaction from the bite caused the problem. That is sad indeed.

 

[Noah]

It was awful Ole rooster.
She was a happy, wonderful dog.
We miss her more than I can put into words.

 

[bertman]

My cats kill shrews all the time. It's hard to imagine that they wouldn't have already been bitten at least once, but in a combined 20 years of life neither cat has shown any signs of a bite. Probably 25 shrews per year.

I am very sorry about your Lab. My heart would break if anything happened to ours.

 

[sourland]

Fox will also kill shrews. They leave them lying there and frequently defecate close to them. Why?

 

[RHRanch]

Well, from what I read, in most cases with dogs - no known cause is ever found. But it also says there is a possiblity that something could instigate a reaction. So, if your dog had some sort of allergic response to the shrew venom, it is possible, but I think it would be rare for it to happen. What I mean is, a shrew could probably bite a lot of dogs, and most of the time no reaction would occur. Either way, its more info., couldn't hurt.

 

[aprophet]

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Coyote pee is one of the lures for trapping coyote so yes it will attract coyotes.

coyote urine is also a pretty fair lure for fox and bobcat as well

The chickens won't even know the pee is there.

Sorry you lost your dog, it isn't likely that a shrew killed it. They do carry parasites, various bacteria, and viruses so it is possible that your dog got an infection from the shrew, however I have no idea why a transfusion would be a course of treatment in those cases. Not enough information to go on.