Crate to Coop Conversion -- Part 2

[supercoops]

I find it very perplexing that you (supercoop) started this thread asking for people's opinions when that is clearly not what you were ready to hear. All you have done is spent time explaining why people's opinions are wrong. You may think your way is the most economical but if you read ANYTHING that was posted on this thread you would see that most backyard chicken owners aren't looking for the most economical. Good luck with selling your coops maybe if you stop being so defensive some of the advice you were given will help sell a few more.

NwChickma, You're correct -- my patience is short with people that lose their money. I'm on the wrong forum, and I should probably talk with professional farmers.

 

[charliethezero]

You are probably right about being on the wrong forum. Most people here want to feel their chickens are comfortable, even if it's just in our own heads, for our birds whether they are pets or dinner. If you read through the coop section you will see keeping chickens is not about money saved at all. As for talking to "professional farmers" I doubt you would be happy with their answers either. Your coops are not practical for a large scale operations.

How many have you sold so far?

 

[madicakes]

NwChickma, You're correct -- my patience is short with people that lose their money. I'm on the wrong forum, and I should probably talk with professional farmers.

You are correct, you are on the wrong forum, if you are wanting to speak with professional farmers. One would have thought that would have been apparent considering the name of the forum is "Backyard Chickens". ETA: Regardless, your coops are not large enough for the amount of chickens you expect them to hold. It is doubtful a professional farmer would think any differently, as the coops are so small they would have to purchase a ton of them for a large flock.

 

[Bayou Lena]

Why do you keep switching between the amount of chickens you own, and how the one chick died?

 

[supercoops]

BYF lacks creativity, and my customers seem to be doing better. For example, last week a guy bought 2 basic crates from me. "Right size for 2 large or three small chickens" he said.. He raises and sells a wide variety of bred chickens and his collection far exceeds anything I've seen on BYF. He's made coops out of about anything you can think of and some of them are smaller than mine. He showed me a double bunk bed frame, an old chest of drawers, a foot locker, a dog house, etc.. My new company name is Crates Unlimited, and my motto is " the only limit is your imagination". I like that, and I have no customers here. bye bye.

 

[supercoops]

You are probably right about being on the wrong forum. Most people here want to feel their chickens are comfortable, even if it's just in our own heads, for our birds whether they are pets or dinner. If you read through the coop section you will see keeping chickens is not about money saved at all. As for talking to "professional farmers" I doubt you would be happy with their answers either. Your coops are not practical for a large scale operations.

How many have you sold so far?

My last customer is breeding about 20 different pedigrees of chickens to sell aside from his management day job, and he needs a compact way to keep all his breeds separated. He bought two of my basic crates to try out. He'll probably use them for brooders starting out and them convert them to roosts for about 2 to 3 chickens. Maybe he'll give me permission to show his collection. It will take a lot of pictures to do that. It sure is a nice one -- maybe two hundred chickens altogether.

 

[supercoops]

Oh, by the way, he's making money at this.... hmmmmm.... I see the difference.

 

[supercoops]

Why do you keep switching between the amount of chickens you own, and how the one chick died?

no sign of intelligent life here. Beam me up Scotty!

 

[waynem1983]

Perhaps a message has been lost in all of your posts that has lead to some hostility towards you. I think this, along with your own defensiveness and a little arrogance may be chasing you away.

All people are trying to say is, this little crate is too small for alot of chickens. No its not a crime to have more than the socially accepted amount of chickens in such a space, but its not considered animal friendly. Have you seen battery farms? Hens live there, they produce eggs, people make money. Does this make the 30cm x 30cm space they live in acceptable? The farm owners certainly think so.

You have come to a pet owners forum. This is not for commercial farmers, hence the sights name. And a commercial farmer would have no interest in these little boxes, they deal in thousands of chickens, not a few and a barn or wharehouse is far more suited.

You may be an engineer, but not a business man, you have no idea what your target market is. Let me help you.

a coop this size, your biggest market would be the back yard chicken owner: people that want to keep a few hens for pets and a few eggs. That is the people on this forum.

All you needed to do to make this into a really nice coop was cut a couple of holes for ventillation, add a roost and a simple nest for egg laying,. Paint it to make it look pretty and away you go.

Instead you decided to challenge the knowledge of everyone on here, mock them with sarcastic posts and apply your suppior brain with facts backed up from a few sales to people that are not your largest market.

I think your arrogance is clouding your judgement, why nt try what people have suggested, advertise in the right places and see how you get on?

Also, am I the only person that sees the irony in "desgin it right the first time" in a thread titled " coop design part 2"?

 

[Bayou Lena]

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