Cream Legbar Hybrid Thread

Ah…this is the thread I need! So I have CCL in with a blue hen (Arkansas Blue). I didn't think I grabbed her egg to hatch but a chick hatched that is quite light. I'm wondering if it's half arkansas blue or a recessive white CCL. Shouldn't a CCL male over a blue hen produce black chicks? I'll try to get pics but chicks are flying out of the shells right now, lol!

Hi again (from CL thread)
Offspring from that pairing should still produce chipmunk stripes in the down, not all black chicks, because they have one barring gene; this is what I see in similar crosses.
If the hen is "blue" and not black or splash, the offspring could get one blue gene which would change any black pattern to blue; otherwise it would look like a fairly typical CL pattern in the down and when it feathers out.
If both the rooster and hen have recessive white (even though they are not the same beed), it could look like a white sport with faint chipmunk stripes and feather out white.
 
I crossed my CCL rooster with a white plymouth rock hen. All nine of the chicks hatched black with a yellow spot on the head. I thought it was very interesting that they are black and didn't take on the color of the mother or the father. Obviously the white rocks are recessive white. I don't know enough about feather color genetics to make anymore generalizations than that. I would have expected some of the chicks to be striped, but nope!

All the chicks were sold and I probably will never find out what they look like grown up or how many males/females there were.
 
I crossed my CCL rooster with a white plymouth rock hen. All nine of the chicks hatched black with a yellow spot on the head. I thought it was very interesting that they are black and didn't take on the color of the mother or the father. Obviously the white rocks are recessive white. I don't know enough about feather color genetics to make anymore generalizations than that. I would have expected some of the chicks to be striped, but nope!

All the chicks were sold and I probably will never find out what they look like grown up or how many males/females there were.

But doesn't the yellow spot mean they are cockerels? When I hatched my legbars the cockerels had the yellow spot and the girls have the stripe.
 
But doesn't the yellow spot mean they are cockerels? When I hatched my legbars the cockerels had the yellow spot and the girls have the stripe.

If someone were to hatch mixed breed eggs where the cream legbar is the male in the equation, then ALL chicks (both genders) could get a head spot (both genders can even also have stripes)whether or not they are male or female since he will pass on one barring gene to ALL his offspring. The head spot may be very tiny or more of a splotch. When you take an auto sexing breed and start to make crosses in most cases they are no longer auto sexing(unless crossed to another auto sexing breed). Certain CL crosses will create sexlinks though.
 
If someone were to hatch mixed breed eggs where the cream legbar is the male in the equation, then ALL chicks (both genders) could get a head spot (both genders can even also have stripes)whether or not they are male or female since he will pass on one barring gene to ALL his offspring. The head spot may be very tiny or more of a splotch. When you take an auto sexing breed and start to make crosses in most cases they are no longer auto sexing(unless crossed to another auto sexing breed). Certain CL crosses will create sexlinks though.

I am plan to cross Bielefelder to Cream Legbar around May/June this year. Will see how auto sexing and auto sexing cross turn out. I expect the op-spring will look more like Bielefelder and the hen will lay light olive egg.
 
Remember Lucy? She's the supposedly purebred CCL that is suspectedly not (we think perhaps 1/4 RIR) due to her odd coloring and naivety of the egg sellers as to what they were doing (more like chicken multipliers than breeders). I mean, really, a cinnamon CCL?




She has grown into a very active bird... It's like we cooped a red roadrunner.

Anyway, she laid her first egg! It's the one on the right.
(The one on the left is from a F2 OE, 1/4 CCL x 3/4 BCM)
 
But doesn't the yellow spot mean they are cockerels? When I hatched my legbars the cockerels had the yellow spot and the girls have the stripe.

In my limited experience**, I've found that you won't get the auto-sexing head spot if it's just a CCL roo. If it is the hen, then yes.


**An egg seller on eBay was selling sex-link eggs of their CCL roo x RIR hens..."Oh, yes," they said. "The chipmunky ones are female and the ones with head spots are male." They most decidedly were not.
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R.I.P., Ethel.....
 
Remember Lucy? She's the supposedly purebred CCL that is suspectedly not (we think perhaps 1/4 RIR) due to her odd coloring and naivety of the egg sellers as to what they were doing (more like chicken multipliers than breeders). I mean, really, a cinnamon CCL?




She has grown into a very active bird... It's like we cooped a red roadrunner.

Anyway, she laid her first egg! It's the one on the right.
(The one on the left is from a F2 OE, 1/4 CCL x 3/4 BCM)
That green egg would be a confirmation of your suspicion that some brown egg layer was in the mix. She is a pretty little red bird though.
 

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