Cream Legbar Hybrid Thread

[Fowling around]

So I have a rhode bar roo over 4 crested cream legbars would this continue at least for first generation as sex link. If I could find a proper roo here in NC I'd move the rhode bar out.

 

[annabellaknits]

So I have a rhode bar roo over 4 crested cream legbars would this continue at least for first generation as sex link. If I could find a proper roo here in NC I'd move the rhode bar out.

I think not because both breeds are barred

 

[FridayYet]

Won't be sex links, but the auto sexing traits should come through since both breeds have them.

 

[jerryse]

These are first generation crosses no silver in the hens used . Cream is said to be recessive . So are some of you seeing cream looking cockerels in first crosses ? Trying to figure out the genes responsible . I do get some crele looking ones also .

 

[chrissyr]

Ok I have six oe that hatched so far.
5 have either a definite spot or vague one.
One pic is an example of 3 (left : no dot, middle: vague dot, right: definite dot)
1 pic is of single vage dot
And 1 is group (1 marans is in there too)
These should be sex linked (blue marans over ccl (Rees line)
I remember the Rees line having some girls that were lighter downed than the boys.
Not sure if that matters
I just can't believe 5/6 are boys

 

[annabellaknits]

Ok I have six oe that hatched so far.
5 have either a definite spot or vague one.
One pic is an example of 3 (left : no dot, middle: vague dot, right: definite dot)
1 pic is of single vage dot
And 1 is group (1 marans is in there too)
These should be sex linked (blue marans over ccl (Rees line)
I remember the Rees line having some girls that were lighter downed than the boys.
Not sure if that matters
I just can't believe 5/6 are boys

Ok I have six oe that hatched so far.
5 have either a definite spot or vague one.
One pic is an example of 3 (left : no dot, middle: vague dot, right: definite dot)
1 pic is of single vage dot
And 1 is group (1 marans is in there too)
These should be sex linked (blue marans over ccl (Rees line)
I remember the Rees line having some girls that were lighter downed than the boys.
Not sure if that matters
I just can't believe 5/6 are boys

They are not sexable. I know everything says they should be but I just hatch the same cross and they were not. Had two girls barred and one boy barred and one solid

 

[sol2go]

These are first generation crosses no silver in the hens used . Cream is said to be recessive . So are some of you seeing cream looking cockerels in first crosses ? Trying to figure out the genes responsible . I do get some crele looking ones also .

Hi, I noticed you have posted this a couple of times. As Cream Legbars are gold based, some consider the color of the wings to be a strong indicator of cream vs gold. Your birds are showing gold barring on the wings which would be correct for only one copy of recessive cream.

While the cockerels do look like a hybrid, they don't appear cream to me. There has been some research regarding possible dilutors in the Cream Legbar gene pool that seem to pop-up and wash-out color/pattern. Wonder how that could play out with various mixes.

I don't recall what breed of hen was in the cross, but the cockerels appear to have two copies of the barring gene.

 

[sol2go]

I have a few questions.

If CL hens with a few spots on them could be carrying the recessive mottling gene, wouldn't that eventually double up and cause mottled CLs on a regular basis? (My CL hen has a few white spots, and I wondered if it was from stress during molting, but the possibilities here could be interesting.)

I checked the kippenjungle site, since I am a real novice at chicken genes, and it appears that the mille fleur color is the mottling gene on a Columbian restricted buff chicken. So assuming my CLs do NOT carry the mottling gene, would mixing the two create barred wild-type chickens, or barred buff chickens? Or something completely different.

Hm, and if I used the MF Leghorn male over the CL hen, then I could get sex-linked barred chicks right?

FMP, did you ever do this cross? Nothing more from you came up when I searched the thread.

Thanks all!

Hi, I still have the CL x Mille Fleur Leghorn rooster shown above. He is really pretty and larger than any of my CL's, which is a surprise because his mom is almost a bantam sized MFL. She was the only MFL that survived out of about a dozen, the worse mortality rate of a specific breed that I've experienced. The best I can do at this point is match him up with the offspring of a Welsummer x Speckled Sussex and look for mottled green egg laying offspring. Unless of course someone has eggs for me to try...

 

[Lady of McCamley]

Question. I have bought crested cream leg bars from 3 diffrent people. I had one who was suposted to already be laying die on me within two weeks and mever laid an egg. The guy i got her from was like sorry. I often enjoy lighting $80 on fire. He didnt even offer me a partial refund or a replacement bird. I got a second one I got january 9th. She was about 3 months old. Today i went up she too was suddenly dead. She did have the funny dark colored poo stuck to her bottom like she had just went potty and died. It hasnt been cold latly here in cali. Only in the 50s at night. I do have a roo and female chicks that are babies there Are from a december hatch from another person. They are doing good. What would cause them to just up and die? Are they not as hearty of a burd or what? Now when my roo is older i have to find an adult one. I wanted to try my hand at breeding but nothing grand scale. For me to keep and to give some to my friend who is starting her own flock soonish.

Any time you move a bird from one area to another you risk introducing pathogens, very often in the form of coccidia. Birds grown on your soil have developed an immunity, but not so with newly purchased birds. They need time to adjust.

I purchased 2 CCL pullets from 2 different lines but from the same farm that I've purchased a different breed from before. The other breed had no issues adjusting, but both CCL began to produce a high volume of poo, only some looked a bit runny.

Not all coccidia produce bloody diarrhea. It depends on the strain and where the infestation builds in the intestinal tract.

To address this issue,I routinely place all new transfers on medicated chick feed to head off any coccidia overgrowth while the bird adjusts in quarantine. If I see poo issues, I then put the bird on Sulmet for several days up to 5 depending on symptoms.

This has really helped me with transition loss. These 2 CCL were placed on medicated feed, but as they progressed suspiciously, they were placed on the Sulmet for 4 days (2 full dosage, 2 half dosage). This cleared things nicely and I then put them bsck on and kept them on medicated feed until introduction to the flock 2 weeks later.

Both are doing well and one (the older) has begun to lay as the days have lengthened.

LofMc

 

[jerryse]

Hi, I noticed you have posted this a couple of times. As Cream Legbars are gold based, some consider the color of the wings to be a strong indicator of cream vs gold. Your birds are showing gold barring on the wings which would be correct for only one copy of recessive cream.

While the cockerels do look like a hybrid, they don't appear cream to me. There has been some research regarding possible dilutors in the Cream Legbar gene pool that seem to pop-up and wash-out color/pattern. Wonder how that could play out with various mixes.

I don't recall what breed of hen was in the cross, but the cockerels appear to have two copies of the barring gene.

Yes the cockerels have two barring genes . The rooster is one of the 2 cockerels . Hens were barred or crele EE . The red shoulders are autosomal red I thought . Trying to figure out what is diluting the color . One reply said it was 2 barring genes doing this . I have one that is crele with 2 barring genes . Crele breeds true with 2 barring genes .