Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

[GaryDean26]

Are pictures from last year’s available to see anywhere?

First Annual Cream Legbar Club On-line Show

Second Annual Cream Legbar Club On-line Show

Third Annual Cream Legbar Club On-line Show

 

[HaplessRunner]

Agenda for October 27, 2018

Cream Legbar Club General Membership Meeting



1. Treasurer’s Report


2. APA Status & Discussion of APA Comments on SOP

· Concern for use of term “some”.

· Redefining in terms of percentages, e.g., allow up to 30% red on ear lobes without penalty

· Quantifying amount of chestnut is also being addressed

· APA may not set qualifying meets until SOP is approved


3. Elections – Positions up for Election

· President

· Secretary

· South Regional Director

· Western Regional Director

· Canadian Regional Director


4. Membership Status and Dues

· Dues for 2019 will increase to $15/year

· Early renewal before 2019 will remain $12

· Associate membership will remain free for 2019


5. Breeder Recognition – The Club has voted to come up with a point system to recognize breeders who show their birds at APA shows and a different point system for the Club’s Online Show.


6. Fourth Online Virtual Show – scheduled for November 1 through December 22, 2018. Entries to be made on Cream Legbar Club Facebook Event page.


7. Newsletter Articles – We are soliciting articles from the membership to continue to produce good content.


8. Membership Recommendations

 

[duluthralphie]

First Annual Cream Legbar Club On-line Show

Second Annual Cream Legbar Club On-line Show

Third Annual Cream Legbar Club On-line Show

I really like last years winner! I personally, think she is best of the three. I would love to have her in my flock.

 

[Bantambird]

It's been a rough year for me in the legbars. Had a major genetic issue reach a head, and I've cleared out a number of hens that had developed failed egg shell glands. I'm such a softy that culling hens is hard because I know I have to call males or every bird suffers, but hens can toodle on without incident. I did it though, and this upcoming spring I will definitely be needing to bring in new blood to shore up my flock. My flock is line AB, should I attempt to find another AB line flock or should I not worry about line breeding? I have a regular who buys poults and chicks and wants to split the bill for shipping in some replacements since I will definitely need some males and most people don't.

 

[WVduckchick]

It's been a rough year for me in the legbars. Had a major genetic issue reach a head, and I've cleared out a number of hens that had developed failed egg shell glands. I'm such a softy that culling hens is hard because I know I have to call males or every bird suffers, but hens can toodle on without incident. I did it though, and this upcoming spring I will definitely be needing to bring in new blood to shore up my flock. My flock is line AB, should I attempt to find another AB line flock or should I not worry about line breeding? I have a regular who buys poults and chicks and wants to split the bill for shipping in some replacements since I will definitely need some males and most people don't.

Wow, that’s rough. Wish I had some words of wisdom for you

I had a bantam cochin go broody a few weeks ago, so I gave her some CL pullet eggs. Only 2 of the first 7 were fertile, and one quit late. When I saw the low fertility, I gave 7 more to another broody. The first broody hatched the one yesterday, and she has 2 more eggs I snatched from the other broody, due in a few days.
Of course the one that hatched is male

 

[Bantambird]

Hehehe I had 4 males hatched for every pullet this year. It was pretty appalling. When I had to give up the season in June (my hatchery is a tiny brick out building, gets too hot in summer) I was pretty disappointed in my male/female ratios.

 

[Surock]

I had no idea this group was here. I’m going to have to read through these comments when I get a chance. I’ve been working with these guys for around 5 years now, maybe more. Really love this breed.

 

[WVduckchick]

I had no idea this group was here. I’m going to have to read through these comments when I get a chance. I’ve been working with these guys for around 5 years now, maybe more. Really love this breed.

Welcome!!
Hope you’ll share some pics with us if you get a chance.

 

[GaryDean26]

Welcome Surock. This thread was started when the first Draft of the APA standard was started. The Cream Legbar Working Group grew into the Cream Legbar Club. We are now on about Draft 4-5 of the standard and it is worked on in the Club Standards committee whihc doesn't have the visibility that this thread did. I am always happy to see people who wanted to under stand the breed standard join this thread. The more open discussion the better (as long and we all are civil and get along).

Bantambird, I made a swap this fall. I made a swap with ChicKat in 2012 and a swap with Lonnyandrinda in 2013. I haven't brought in any new blood since then, but traded two pullets to a lady near us for spring hatching eggs from her line. She said her hens are 8 years old so I think she has lost track of the time, but at any rate she has cream colored birds from early on. I really hope they are earlier than the 2013 GFF lines. I was NOT a fan of the 2013 birds. I like the 2011-2012 line birds though. I don't think I would be happy with the results if I crossed lines. I know lots of people that have crossed the A/B lines with the 2013 (C/D lines) and the later 2013 Rees and 2016 Rees lines. MOst of them regretted crossing lines. The A/B lines have a lot of good qualities such as good egg color, large bodied birds, good egg size, good vigor etc. People that were accustom to those qualities thought that crossing would give them birds that had better color, better type, hybird vigor, etc. Then they saw their favorite things about the breed dissapear (be it egg color, disposition, etc). So...I would try to find a line that is closly related (i.e. A/B line) so that you can keep uniformity in your flock and make it easier to control the out put from the mating. I will likely do test mates of the A/B stock I get in the Spring to see if I like the results before mixing it with my line. I lost the white color on the ear lobes and have been working 3 years to get it back. I am finally seeing progress and would hate to lose all the progress and have to start over again due to making a cross that put a ripple in the bloodline.

 

[Bantambird]

Welcome Surock. This thread was started when the first Draft of the APA standard was started. The Cream Legbar Working Group grew into the Cream Legbar Club. We are now on about Draft 4-5 of the standard and it is worked on in the Club Standards committee whihc doesn't have the visibility that this thread did. I am always happy to see people who wanted to under stand the breed standard join this thread. The more open discussion the better (as long and we all are civil and get along).

Bantambird, I made a swap this fall. I made a swap with ChicKat in 2012 and a swap with Lonnyandrinda in 2013. I haven't brought in any new blood since then, but traded two pullets to a lady near us for spring hatching eggs from her line. She said her hens are 8 years old so I think she has lost track of the time, but at any rate she has cream colored birds from early on. I really hope they are earlier than the 2013 GFF lines. I was NOT a fan of the 2013 birds. I like the 2011-2012 line birds though. I don't think I would be happy with the results if I crossed lines. I know lots of people that have crossed the A/B lines with the 2013 (C/D lines) and the later 2013 Rees and 2016 Rees lines. MOst of them regretted crossing lines. The A/B lines have a lot of good qualities such as good egg color, large bodied birds, good egg size, good vigor etc. People that were accustom to those qualities thought that crossing would give them birds that had better color, better type, hybird vigor, etc. Then they saw their favorite things about the breed dissapear (be it egg color, disposition, etc). So...I would try to find a line that is closly related (i.e. A/B line) so that you can keep uniformity in your flock and make it easier to control the out put from the mating. I will likely do test mates of the A/B stock I get in the Spring to see if I like the results before mixing it with my line. I lost the white color on the ear lobes and have been working 3 years to get it back. I am finally seeing progress and would hate to lose all the progress and have to start over again due to making a cross that put a ripple in the bloodline.

Yeah, I guessed it might be like that. Some of mine will be pushing 6 this spring, and it was my best confirmation birds that ended up having the internal issues.