Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

I swear I heard her say “Brrrrrr” this morning. :gig
We have gotten quite chilly. Supposed to be below freezing tomorrow morning
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Welcome Surock. This thread was started when the first Draft of the APA standard was started. The Cream Legbar Working Group grew into the Cream Legbar Club. We are now on about Draft 4-5 of the standard and it is worked on in the Club Standards committee whihc doesn't have the visibility that this thread did. I am always happy to see people who wanted to under stand the breed standard join this thread. The more open discussion the better (as long and we all are civil and get along).

Bantambird, I made a swap this fall. I made a swap with ChicKat in 2012 and a swap with Lonnyandrinda in 2013. I haven't brought in any new blood since then, but traded two pullets to a lady near us for spring hatching eggs from her line. She said her hens are 8 years old so I think she has lost track of the time, but at any rate she has cream colored birds from early on. I really hope they are earlier than the 2013 GFF lines. I was NOT a fan of the 2013 birds. I like the 2011-2012 line birds though. I don't think I would be happy with the results if I crossed lines. I know lots of people that have crossed the A/B lines with the 2013 (C/D lines) and the later 2013 Rees and 2016 Rees lines. MOst of them regretted crossing lines. The A/B lines have a lot of good qualities such as good egg color, large bodied birds, good egg size, good vigor etc. People that were accustom to those qualities thought that crossing would give them birds that had better color, better type, hybird vigor, etc. Then they saw their favorite things about the breed dissapear (be it egg color, disposition, etc). So...I would try to find a line that is closly related (i.e. A/B line) so that you can keep uniformity in your flock and make it easier to control the out put from the mating. I will likely do test mates of the A/B stock I get in the Spring to see if I like the results before mixing it with my line. I lost the white color on the ear lobes and have been working 3 years to get it back. I am finally seeing progress and would hate to lose all the progress and have to start over again due to making a cross that put a ripple in the bloodline.
I’m not exactly sure about what lines I started with years ago. I started with a trio that had been hatched from birds directly from GFF. I found a 2nd Cock in another county, I don’t know for sure if the guy really knew what kind of chicken he was. I’ve had them ever since. Pretty much all the ones I started with were Golden Crele which I really liked. One of my girls was the 2016 Golden Crele in the Cream Legbar show. Over the years I’ve gotten the egg color better than what I started with too.
But I too, unknowingly added Rees last year. I’m in my 2nd generation with them and getting creams. Still getting some Creles but ok with that too. Egg color hasn’t been bad. I have noticed a green tinge on a couple eggs but plan to work hard to get back to what I had pre Rees. I do like the bigger bodied birds too and have worked toward that in the past.
 
Entries to Date for Fourth Annual Cream Legbar Club Online, Virtual Show

As of December 6, 2018:

Cream Legbars: 14 cockerels and 14 pullets
Golden Crele Legbars: 1 cock, 3 cockerels, and 2 pullets
White Legbars: 1 cockerel and 1 pullet

Your hens and cocks should be coming out of their annual molts and growing new feathers for the winter. Please get your pictures taken! The online show is open until December 22, 2018.

Happy Holidays to all from the Cream Legbar Club!
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I wish I could get that much for them here!
I sold a pair at about 4-5 months old for $30-40 back in 2015 or 2016. I still hardly see them forsale around here on craigslist or facebook groups. I guess just not much enough interest or not enough people know about them in these parts. Cackle has been the cheapest hatchery online Ive seen so far.

Murray McMurray has them priced pretty well for straight run too.
https://www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/cream_legbars.html

Everywhere else still has them super high.
Here's Murray McMurray:
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Around here very few people offer ameraucanas either for blue egg layers. Mainly just easter eggers. I mainly see silkies, barnyard mixes, and some old hatchery birds on facebook groups and craigslist. Sometimes you'll see some nice show birds come up for sale but usually they want an arm and a leg..
 
What do you guys think of my legbars? They are 5 or 6 months just started laying.
Thinking of starting to breed them these are the first three I bred from two I bought from a lady locally she said she bought hers from private seller so I'm not sure on the quality of them

I will get pics soon of the 2 parents I'm starting with which is the parents of these three
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Flaws I have noticed are red in the earlobes on the roo and maybe the crests are too dark?
Any thoughts?
 

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