Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

It may take a while to sift through my photos, but I have an old post on either this or the other legbar thread I frequent that has a picture of 5 cockerels that all present very differently and yet are still definitely cockerels. I'll see if I can drag it up but I'll probably have to get on my computer. For legbar cockerels, the most important factors are: 1.yes, the spot should be large and irregular. 2. Greyed out markings as compared to female markings being well defined 3. Irregular borders. Females have: 1. Spots well contained within the v on the head if they possess a spot at all 2. Sharp, well defined wild type markings, usually tan or brown 3. Well defined eye markings, usually stripes painted sharply down the back, sometimes even parallel stripes on either side of the big one, often these stripes won't show up on my males at all.
 
It may take a while to sift through my photos, but I have an old post on either this or the other legbar thread I frequent that has a picture of 5 cockerels that all present very differently and yet are still definitely cockerels. I'll see if I can drag it up but I'll probably have to get on my computer. For legbar cockerels, the most important factors are: 1.yes, the spot should be large and irregular. 2. Greyed out markings as compared to female markings being well defined 3. Irregular borders. Females have: 1. Spots well contained within the v on the head if they possess a spot at all 2. Sharp, well defined wild type markings, usually tan or brown 3. Well defined eye markings, usually stripes painted sharply down the back, sometimes even parallel stripes on either side of the big one, often these stripes won't show up on my males at all.
Thank you for this. Very helpful.
 
First test hatch of the hatching season came out of the incubator on 12/23/2020.

This is an f1 cross between an opal male and my cream females, so I expected to have to cull some poor down markings.

I had 4 obvious females, 4 obvious males, and three I thought were girls even though they were a bit more faintly marked. Now that they're feathering in and I can see the barring in the feathers on the breast I see that they do NOT have salmon/cream breasts, but rather have very dark barring so I'm assuming males.

Are these going to wind up being golden crele males, or just hyper-melanized males? Or perhaps single barred males? Am I jumping the gun on assuming they're males? Have any of you ever had a girl that had a barred rather than salmon/cream breast?

They're culls either way, but I am curious about them. I don't plan on growing them out to find out myself.

(I'll add photos shortly.)

ETA: I just recalled that crossbreeding with my Leghorns was a possibility with this hatch and I do have one definite Leghorn cross females, these may be single-barred leghorn cross males. So, uh... nevermind I guess. :lau
 
At the risk of being called a “ grumpy old man” by a certain Montana woman.

While your cross breeds are interesting, I liked coming here to see people that are doing what the thread seems to be set up for.

Breeding Legbars to the SOP.

Would you mind starting another thread for your projects.

Thanks

a persnickety grumpy old man.
 
At the risk of being called a “ grumpy old man” by a certain Montana woman.

While your cross breeds are interesting, I liked coming here to see people that are doing what the thread seems to be set up for.

Breeding Legbars to the SOP.

Would you mind starting another thread for your projects.

Thanks

a persnickety grumpy old man.

Yep, you sound like a grumpy old man. :D This was my first test hatch of the season. Birds have been let out to free-range together occasionally so I knew there was a chance for some crosses, but they aren't intentional and they're all culls.

Still breeding legbars to the SOP over here. :D
 
At the risk of being called a “ grumpy old man” by a certain Montana woman.

While your cross breeds are interesting, I liked coming here to see people that are doing what the thread seems to be set up for.

Breeding Legbars to the SOP.

Would you mind starting another thread for your projects.

Thanks

a persnickety grumpy old man.

Unless you're talking about my opal x cream cross as being a project and therefore not allowed here? In which case I'm just going to ignore that. IMO the lavender birds are every bit as legit as the creams and golds.
 

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