Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

[flyingmonkeypoop]

I´m 31 and single.. I suspect chicken genetics have alot to do with it..hahahaha

For some reason I thought you were younger (around early 20's), now I feel like a jerk.

 

[nicalandia]

For some reason I thought you were younger (around early 20's), now I feel like a jerk.

Why would you feel like a jerk, I´m a 20 years old bachelor traped in a 30 year old body....hahaha am Ok with that

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

Not to get this too off topic but people tell me often that they think I am in my 30's when we talk online and are surprised to find out I am in my early 20's.

Now back to legbars- I plan to try to work on a photoshop version of my legbars over the next few weeks to get them looking ideal in my eyes and also give me something to breed towards and have a picture to look at if that makes any sense to anyone

 

[nicalandia]

Not to get this too off topic but people tell me often that they think I am in my 30's when we talk online and are surprised to find out I am in my early 20's.

yeah back to topic Please...

edit. we are all young at heart

 

[faykokoWV]

The APA is very specific about the color of Wellies. Maybe some keepers of Wellies don't care what color they are, but the SOP is clear and the judges understand it. There is always slight differences in parti colored birds, but that is nature and those differences need to be subtle to fit with the Standard color description. The slight differences are usually found in females.

If you want these in the APA SOP you have to decide on color. If you have a range of colors that are acceptable....why have a Standard for color? The crest ....if in the description will have to have a color description. Every part of the bird needs to have an accurate color description with very little leeway in shades.

The APA will requires that all lines of CL's use the same color description. This is why it is good to start on this now if you want this breed accepted by the APA.

Walt

for me its kind of like matching dark blue socks - I can see the difference in the shades of dark blue very easily, but my husband thinks they all look like the same blue - that's what I mean by variations in color. Gold can be a yellow gold or an orange gold and still be considered gold. i hope that makes sense. they are drastic differences

 

[GaryDean26]

I don't know if the cresting color needs to be discussed or not, but the dark black crests are oviously not to standard.

I don't have any knowlege of the definitions used by APA for body types, but did look for photos to use as examples to be discussed.

Is this RIR wedge shaped? It is deeper (distance from back to keel bone) at the tail than at the sholders. I am told that laying breeds all are deeper at the tail.

http://cdn.backyardchickens.com/7/7f/7f9b0543_P2070078.jpeg

How about this BCM? Is it wedge shaped. It is narrower at the tail than at the the sholders. I think that for for laying breeds you want a wide body at the tail. Pinched tails won't be good layers. The same is true for dual purpose birds. I think that some of the meat birds can have pinched tails as it can make for a body type with more breast meat.

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/21719698/sn/382424198/name/099.jpg

Other photos and comments are welcome.

Okay,

I lucked into some Cream Legbars photos today to add to the body type discussion.



I assume this a prominant brest???




I assume this is a wedge shape narrowing to the tail, but I am not sure if this is the pinched tail that wouldn't be an efficent layer or not. My white Leghorns are slender at the sholders and failry straight all the way back. What shape are the efficient layers supposed to be? What shape are Cream Legbars supposed to be? Are these the same or different?

 

[fowlman01]

for me its kind of like matching dark blue socks - I can see the difference in the shades of dark blue very easily, but my husband thinks they all look like the same blue - that's what I mean by variations in color. Gold can be a yellow gold or an orange gold and still be considered gold. i hope that makes sense. they are drastic differences

I understand what you are saying...that is why the color description needs to be accurate. Judges are trained to understand the color descriptions in the SOP. The keepers of CL's need to know APA/ABA terminology before you folks get too far into this. Someone ....at least one person needs to own a 2010 APA Standard, so that this is not a blue sock issue. Until someone working on this project reads at least the first 40 pages of the SOP all of this will be like looking at blue socks. So far I have seen three different colors being called CL's...not subtle shades of color ...three pretty different colored males....with varying shades within those three.

Walt

 

[omaeve]

OMG stop tying so fast I am 50 pages behind now.

 

[ChicKat]

I can´t have kids also... which has kept me on a bachelor mode all of these years, basicaly I´m a big bachelor with lots of time to spare...

ahhhhh - but are you like me? I treat my chickens like they are my children? :O)

 

[ChicKat]

I plan to try to work on a photoshop version of my legbars over the next few weeks to get them looking ideal in my eyes and also give me something to breed towards and have a picture to look at if that makes any sense to anyone

What a good idea.... like edit the photo -- or take a layer and with an outline show where 'changes' would be appealing to you.... anyway a good idea...