Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

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Walt, Is it OK if I post some pictures/pages of the standard, as it relates to discussion?

The APA has a strong copyright rule that does not allow people to copy type or illustrations that are in their Standard. They very seldom make an exception. You could use a description if you changed the wording, if that is any help. Best to run it by me in a PM though, as they do enforce their copyrights. I would guess that the British/Australian Standards are protected as well. Just checked the Aussie Standard and it is.

Sorry!

Walt
 
Larry Urban said that they are in AOSB. I will have to look into this, he said they were in the wrong class when they were in the Continental class when he judged. I guess I just figured a judge would know so I went off of what he said without looking for my self :(

As you probably know......don't believe everything Larry tells you. A judge is supposed to know which class they are in, but to be fair..........judges are also supposed to read the APA newsletter, yearbook etc and it is their duty to keep up with changes and additions to the Standard. Always do your own research....especially if there is a question from the beginning. I helped get the Marans into the SOP, so you can believe me when I say they are in the Continental class. Your instincts were right on with the French connection.

Also a very good question you posed about what class the Legbars should be in. The English Class makes sense.

Walt
 
Thanks FaykojoWV and Walt.....

We need someone to keep all Walt's posts as they advise us. Let's see...who will volunteer to be the Crested Legbar Club secretary-pro-tem? -- It would be a good set of 'new business' for the club meetings. I guess a 2010 APA standard would be a good purchase for the club....and....I will volunteer to purchase and send out to the first 10 people who volunteer to be club members for sure (list your name here for all to see and sign in blood of course)...an Online Auction Color Chart.... so we can say something like: "my eggs are nearest to oac179, my cockerels hackles are predominantly oac900, and my hen's salmon is......between oac642 on the darkest and oac655 on the lightest.

However it is still going to be somewhat subjective IMO....and I do have a fondness for variations.

Allow time for processing and shipping. ;O)
I volunteer to be a member! Do I need to PM you my information? Is there a club web page yet? If not, there is a great free web provider called weebly - very easy to design and edit a webpage. I would be glad to volunteer to get that started if that's something that is needed. I know there are yahoo forums and what not, but a dedicated webpage for the "club" would be good. I guess that goes back to the issue of what are we going to call these birds though? Can't create a webpage without a name!
 








Shape: Male

Comb: Single; large, straight and erect, deeply and evenly serrated with five to seven spikes, extending well over the back of the head, without touching the line of the head, free from side spikes or thumb-marks.

Beak: Stout, point clear of the front of the comb, slightly curved.

Face: Smooth (or finely textured, mine with small feathers)?

Eyes: Large, bright, and prominent. Round in appearance.

Wattles: Moderately long, uniform in size, well-rounded, skin soft.

Ear-lobes: Well-developed, hanging about one third the length of the waddles, pendent, smooth and free from folds, equally matched in size and shape.

Crest: Small, above the eyes and extended back towards the end of the comb.

Head: Medium in length, symmetrical, well balanced, and of fine quality.

Neck: Long and well covered with hackle feathers.

Back: Moderately broad at the shoulders, narrowing slightly toward the tail, long in length, with an even slope to the tail. Saddle feathers: Abundant, moderately long and sweeping to the tail.

Tail: Moderately full, carried at an angle of forty-five degrees above horizontal. Sickles: relatively longer than main tail, and well curved.

Wings: Large and carried close to the body without dropping.

Breast: Prominent, well-developed, carried forward and upright.

Body and Fluff: Body moderately long, sloping to the tail, broad in front tapering slightly to the rear. Keel of good length, following the line of the back. Feathers: moderately long and close to the body.

Legs and Toes: Legs moderately long, straight when viewed from the front. Thighs medium length. Shanks round, strong, and free from feathers. Toes: four, long, straight, and well-spread.
 
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Above is a first version BPS to APA. Looked mainly at my male and Punnett's Legbar cockerel. As I have never shown, please think about this, and indicate what you see differently or as an improvement. Cheers!
 
I would like to see a full side view of him.
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Shape: Male

Comb: Single; large, straight and erect, deeply and evenly serrated with five to seven spikes, extending well over the back of the head, without touching the line of the head, free from side spikes or thumb-marks.

Beak: Stout, point clear of the front of the comb, slightly curved.

Face: Smooth (or finely textured, mine with small feathers)?

Eyes: Large, bright, and prominent. Round in appearance.

Wattles: Moderately long, uniform in size, well-rounded, skin soft.

Ear-lobes: Well-developed, hanging about one third the length of the waddles, pendent, smooth and free from folds, equally matched in size and shape.

Head: Medium in length, symmetrical, well balanced, and of fine quality.

Neck: Long and well covered with hackle feathers.

Back: Moderately broad at the shoulders, narrowing slightly toward the tail, long in length, with an even slope to the tail. Saddle feathers: Abundant, moderately long and sweeping to the tail.

Tail: Moderately full, carried at an angle of forty-five degrees above horizontal. Sickles: relatively longer than main tail, and well curved.

Wings: Large and carried close to the body without dropping.

Breast: Prominent, well-developed, carried forward and upright.

Body and Fluff: Body moderately long, sloping to the tail, broad in front tapering slightly to the rear. Keel of good length, following the line of the back. Feathers: moderately long and close to the body.

Legs and Toes: Legs moderately long, straight when viewed from the front. Thighs medium length. Shanks round, strong, and free from feathers. Toes: four, long, straight, and well-spread.



 
You guys are all going to be sick of this bird! OK, I know about the squirrel tail and his back is not as long as Punnett's legbar cockerel, but still think about the rest. If you need a link to the Genetic Studies in Poultry paper, I'll go hunt for it and re-edit this message. http://www.ias.ac.in/jarch/jgenet/41/1.pdf
Also you can click on each photo and it will enlarge. Second photo from top you can see the small feathers on the face.
 
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