Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

[KPenley]

In my copy of the SOP there are some definitions which may help:

Cock - a male fowl one year old or more
Cockerel - a male less than one year old
Hen - any domestic female fowl one year old or more.
Pullet - a female less than one year old

Someplace, I thought the discussion weighed in that the pullet probably should be POL or older so most likely you would want a pullet to be between 6-months and 1-year old for a show. HTH

X2 I've been told that if the pullet is not laying yet she will receive an "age" markdown.

 

[ChicKat]

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In some ways, that seems odd - because another definition definition of a pullet is a female that hasn't laid an egg yet. Your source is good, I take it? :0)

 

[leighton]

Here is a cool blog post about how to hard cook fresh eggs and still be able to peel them.  

http://www.gardenbetty.com/2012/10/...t-hard-boiled-egg-even-with-a-farm-fresh-egg/

The author shows the eggshells after she successfully peeled using this method.  The EEs egg in the photo shows a blue egg with a brown bloom hence a green egg.  Our bird's greens (or blue-greens if you wish) do not have a brown bloom (or at least mine don't.  The interior and exterior egg shell color are identical.)  There is something in certain araucana (and hence, I would suspect blue layers in general) that distributes brown throughout the entire calcium carbonate of the egg shell.  

Tadkins wrote a great paper on this -- here is the BYC link. https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/830629/crested-cream-legbar-genotype-vs-phenotype/20  It is in the plumage forum - first link in post 27 I believe.  Thanks again Tim. 

Very cool link about hard boiled eggs. Thank you

 

[KPenley]

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I hear you. Walt was the one who encouraged me to show pullets who were sexually mature, and I think it was Curtis who read that pullets around the age they laid egg #7 were in their prime to be shown.

 

[ChicKat]

I hear you. Walt was the one who encouraged me to show pullets who were sexually mature, and I think it was Curtis who read that pullets around the age they laid egg #7 were in their prime to be shown.

yep, I had heard that before. The CL pullet doesn't get the red face until she is POL...so it would have to be just around that time to really look best and be correct according to SOP...but the question is that it would be penalized for not yet laying. I can see for not looking according to SOP --

that is so interesting about Egg 7 - a really specific time in a pullets life -- like she is 25 weeks old or 26. So one could time one's hatches to be that age for the show.... interesting huh? But then what if she didn't read the schedule?

 

[ChicKat]

Very cool link about hard boiled eggs. Thank you

Can't wait to try it out. A clean peel for fresh eggs seems nearly impossible. We'll see. You are welcome.

 

[GaryDean26]

I guess I over looked the exact number of eggs, but the yellow color will leave the beak and legs to color egg yolk when the hens starts to lay and feather fade between molts with time spent in the sun, etc. the reference I read said their is only a narrow window for the bird to be at its best. The serious exhibitors start preparing for the show by timing when they hatch their grow out groups and then take care at every age of development (i.e thedragonlady's feed regimen,t etc.) up to and through the day of the show.

 

[ChicKat]

I guess I over looked the exact number of eggs, but the yellow color will leave the beak and legs to color egg yolk when the hens starts to lay and feather fade between molts with time spent in the sun, etc. the reference I read said their is only a narrow window for the bird to be at its best. The serious exhibitors start preparing for the show by timing when they hatch their grow out groups and then take care at every age of development (i.e thedragonlady's feed regimen,t etc.) up to and through the day of the show.

So true... Target the show and plan the hatch date accordingly OR deal with the consequences.

eMailed Jill Rees to wish her luck in the Nationals at Stoneleigh and she is taking 6 birds but concerned that they may be going into a molt.
You can just imagine how that would affect their chance at a show.

I pick up a bird that is molting and feathers --can sometimes fly. Or look at one who has a funny feather in the tail and it falls off while I'm watching it.

The trepidation of people going for showing and things that they have to overcome.

 

[ChicKat]

This summer I found the forms the Marans Club used for this. Any show that had multiple exhibitors with birds in all four categories (cock, cockerel, hen pullet) were requested to have the judge sign their club form and send it to the chairman of their club's show committee. I need to revisit this and get forms available to people that are showing CLB's. I doubt we have had any shows that meet that criterion yet, but am sure we will in the next year.

IMO HaplessRunner has a really good idea. It would be pretty easy to set up a form on the Club's website and have people enter their data... (I so love it when the data goes directly to the spreadsheet from the form entered by the person who knows exactly what the correct data should be. )

If anyone wants to brainstorm things that should be collected, I can easily add a page to the Club website and people can enter their info.

Date, show location, their contact info, number of Cream Legbars entered, Classes that they are entered in, results, judges name etc. What else -- oh results, comments/advice -- etc.
Let me know -- It wouldn't carry the judges signature -- but perhaps that could be archived elsewhere....


Different subject - but related... The Club website: - enrollment form- is new/different from last year. With the exception of the two people who joined in November...everyone should re-enroll. - positive re-enrolllment. I put in the honorary members and endowment member to test the form and it seems to be working. for full members...put in your contact information on that one form -- you don't go to a different form like before. This should streamline things for the people who keep the membership list and mailing list -- Feel free to enter your reenrollment now -- any dues paid now go through the end of 2014.

One last thing... if you joined the Club and aren't hearing from the Club with notices of meetings, the survey, contest info, and probably most importantly the fabulous Newsletter --- then your email address didn't get sent via the Enrollment form. Just clicking PayPal doesn't populate the mailing and member lists -- sorry - we aren't quite that sophisticated technically -- it's a two step process. PM me if any problems or questions..an email will probably go out before too long...but if you are someone not on the email distribution who joined -- and visit these forums, but you aren't getting things from the club---this form will fix that.

 

[GaryDean26]

ChicKat,

I just sent you a daft "show form" with spots for the name of the show, exhibitors list, number of birds show in every category, the winners, and judge's comments.