Cream Legbars

[Metella]

Fascinating ! Thanks guys ...

how funny that human eyes perceive it differently - and age makes a difference ...

Maybe I am too old to get blue eggs.

I actually would like more AK Blue chicks - the two I hatched out have really endeared themselves to me. But I would love to buy straight run chicks as I don't have an incubator .... and my brooders are just so / so in the attentive department.

 

[ChicKat]

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So my point is what we see, what we expect - do we convince ourselves they are a different shade of pastel ? It can't be semantics - as the SOP you quoted says they can lay both ... so both is ok - but how do owners determine if they have blue or green ?

Again - I am not talking about people who have actual color blindness ... but the others. I have never looked to the sky on a nice day and said what a nice light green sky. So I expect blue eggs to be similar .. but they are not.

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Obviously - I am being uncompromising on the word and concept of blue - I don't expect a blue as saturated as a Robin's egg ... but even a light pastel that is blue ... and I am not seeing them.

Now - we hold breeders hard to SOP's when they are trying to raise pure stock ... why are breeders (not casual owners) not concerned with a hard line on color also?

I don't want a discussion of SOP here - I want subjective - personal thoughts and experiences ..... what you think of blue vs green and the different shades of such ....

Fascinating ! Thanks guys ...

how funny that human eyes perceive it differently - and age makes a difference ...

Maybe I am too old to get blue eggs.

I actually would like more AK Blue chicks - the two I hatched out have really endeared themselves to me. But I would love to buy straight run chicks as I don't have an incubator .... and my brooders are just so / so in the attentive department.

Hi Metella,

blue is important to me as well....


Here is the Online Auction Color Chart... it has 'swatches' and an egg can be held next to a color in a remote location - and someone with a chart in a different location - can look at their OWN chart...and see first hand what the other person is seeing.

The three background eggs are from my Isbars...and the foreground egg is from a Cream Legbar. -- LOL -- when I posted this photo someplace in one of the Cream Legbar treads, I asked if anyone was getting a more blue egg than the OAC179 shown in this photo.... (in general the higher the number the more the blue--- for example OAC213 and 214 are less aqua. Thus far, no one has shown a bluer than OAC179--- HOWEVER, I suspect that they are out there.

It has been pointed out that the Araucana and Ameraucana Clubs have color charts with multiple shades of 'blue' - and that is the nature of how the blue-egg gene manifests itself.

I agree that if we advertise a blue-egg layer, we should put more effort into it being a blue-egg layer (visually) Otherwise we could just say 'has the blue-egg gene'

ETA - if you and your egg supplier had both had OAC charts--- ahh the clarity of communication -- OR if you had one now - you could tell us the nearest match that you found to your eggs....and we could know the green-ness of your green :O)

 

[DCchicken]

Hi Metella, blue is important to me as well.... Here is the Online Auction Color Chart... it has 'swatches' and an egg can be held next to a color in a remote location - and someone with a chart in a different location - can look at their OWN chart...and see first hand what the other person is seeing. The three background eggs are from my Isbars...and the foreground egg is from a Cream Legbar. -- LOL -- when I posted this photo someplace in one of the Cream Legbar treads, I asked if anyone was getting a more blue egg than the OAC179 shown in this photo.... (in general the higher the number the more the blue--- for example OAC213 and 214 are less aqua. Thus far, no one has shown a bluer than OAC179--- HOWEVER, I suspect that they are out there. It has been pointed out that the Araucana and Ameraucana Clubs have color charts with multiple shades of 'blue' - and that is the nature of how the blue-egg gene manifests itself. I agree that if we advertise a blue-egg layer, we should put more effort into it being a blue-egg layer (visually) Otherwise we could just say 'has the blue-egg gene' ETA - if you and your egg supplier had both had OAC charts--- ahh the clarity of communication -- OR if you had one now - you could tell us the nearest match that you found to your eggs....and we could know the green-ness of your green :O)

This assumes that two OAC charts have the same exact color. Since no one has proven that the OAC charts are calibrated, I have my doubts. Now is someone holds their egg up to a Pantone chart, I can pull out my Pantone chart and guarantee both are accurately displaying the same color. So what Pantone color are you looking for in an egg?

 

[dretd]

DCChickens, Remembering that it was too expensive for my budget, I re-looked up the Pantone color guides. The starter card set is $59 plus $8.99 shipping http://www.pantone.com/pages/Pantone.aspx?pg=21141&ca=1&from=hpsilo . And that's just the starter set-it only gets more expensive from there.

For me, I would rather (and did) spend the $59 with no shipping cost on the APA SOP ( http://www.amerpoultryassn.com/store.htm )and get the OAC for $7 (eta-I just tried to look up the current price and the onlineauctionchart domain is down, but is still referenced by an ebay seller who is selling it for $ http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONLINE-AUCTION-COLOR-CHART-/190892891515?pt=US_Fabric&hash=item2c721a5d7b) --more bang for my buck. I am not concerned so much about the two colors being calibrated and exact as long as they are close. I want to use my chart mainly for my own reference and see how my eggs' color may (or may not) change over time. It would be handy for someone else who I am buying eggs from to have the chart. Although not perfect, I would have a hard time believing the calibration and printing controls (my understanding is usually batch runs are pretty consistent in color, its when they change runs you can get errors between different runs) are so poor that someone could mistake OAC 123 for OAC 179. They would look and land somewhere on the 'blue' or 'green' page and that's good enough for me.

Where would you recommend that one look for a Pantone color chart and how much money would it cost to purchase just a blue and green color wheel? Maybe I am looking in the wrong place.

 

[HaplessRunner]

Eastern Region Cream Legbar Event - August 4, 2014
August 4th Eastern Region Event—Hosted by Anthony Markley - Regional Director
This will be a live presentation of Cream Legbars that demonstrates the effects and the influences of the ‘Ig’ and ‘ig’ genes upon the physical appearance of the Cream Legbar.
Also shown in this demonstration will be a pair of white “Cream Legbars” which display the effects of recessive white genes.
Location:
Lovettsville Library
12 North Light Street,
Lovettsville, VA 20180
Library Phone numbers: 540-822-5824 Voice 540-822-5998 Fax To contact Anthony Markley directly: [email protected] Phone: 540-822-9043
Date and Time:
Monday, August 4th at 7:30 PM
Directions: http://library.loudoun.gov/Portals/0/pdf/branchdirections.pdf
Note: All attendees are requested to wear clean clothes to avoid transmission of diseases from one chicken flock to another. Attendees will be allowed to look but NOT to touch the chickens shown in this presentation.

 

[DCchicken]

DCChickens, Remembering that it was too expensive for my budget, I re-looked up the Pantone color guides. The starter card set is $59 plus $8.99 shipping http://www.pantone.com/pages/Pantone.aspx?pg=21141&ca=1&from=hpsilo . And that's just the starter set-it only gets more expensive from there.

For me, I would rather (and did) spend the $59 with no shipping cost on the APA SOP ( http://www.amerpoultryassn.com/store.htm )and get the OAC for $7 (eta-I just tried to look up the current price and the onlineauctionchart domain is down, but is still referenced by an ebay seller who is selling it for $ http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONLINE-AUCTION-COLOR-CHART-/190892891515?pt=US_Fabric&hash=item2c721a5d7b) --more bang for my buck. I am not concerned so much about the two colors being calibrated and exact as long as they are close. I want to use my chart mainly for my own reference and see how my eggs' color may (or may not) change over time. It would be handy for someone else who I am buying eggs from to have the chart. Although not perfect, I would have a hard time believing the calibration and printing controls (my understanding is usually batch runs are pretty consistent in color, its when they change runs you can get errors between different runs) are so poor that someone could mistake OAC 123 for OAC 179. They would look and land somewhere on the 'blue' or 'green' page and that's good enough for me.

Where would you recommend that one look for a Pantone color chart and how much money would it cost to purchase just a blue and green color wheel? Maybe I am looking in the wrong place.

To be honest, I never really look at the price. I built my career around building websites and now mobile apps. So I usually just have them given to me. Maybe try your local university bookstore. You might find one used. The other option is to go into Lowes or Home Depot and get color sample cards that match your eggs. Those cards are color calibrated and have matching Pantone and RGB color codes.

 

[sol2go]

without the benefit of any color cards, here's a visual from three blue egg layers, two eggs each:

1st column: wheaten ameraucana 2nd & 3rd columns: from 2 of my cream legbars




and just for fun, FBCM eggs, same day, same location, same daylighting (north windows, no flash), same camera settings, but a different orientation:

top row: two eggs from the same 18 month old blue copper marans
bottom row: the first two eggs from two 18 week old black copper marans and one of the eggs they hatched from



the white tray appears brighter in the lower picture and the brown eggs seem a little more brown in person.

 

[KPenley]

CLC members, meeting tonight at 9pm EST! Full members, contact Rinda if you did not receive your link email yesterday!

 

[caychris]

This little boys feathers are continuing to friz out here is a pic a few days ago and last night I checked and there is more. I couldnt get a good pic but the ones on the wing here are curling.

Anyone ever seen this?

 

[Woodsmith]

Hatched several CL this Spring. Ended up with 1 roo and 4 pullets. The pullets are amiable and will let you touch them. I have heard that they are a late layer. Anyone have any experience with how long it takes for them to start laying?