Cream Legbars

[KendyF]

Apparently i don't know how to post stuff on my phone! But wanted to add that my girls are all very friendly and curious. I actually love their personalities. My cockerel isn't as friendly but not aggressive at this point either.

Thank you, mine are just moving into a fairly large established flock, so they are likely just feeling overwhelmed. Also, I am not sure how socialized they were. Thanks for your thoughts.

 

[ChicKat]

Two more that might work

I think it is a bit early to tell. They go through quite a few color changes. Remember that there are areas where chestnut is permissible. Sometimes people forget that ...but it is permissible in the SOP.

This last photo shows a number of good things IMO. You have a really nice comb and crest, you have what appears at this point to be a long back and a very nice lowered tail angle. One cannot really tell from a picture... as has often been said on these threads. Preoccupation with coloration could eliminate your best stock. Type is far far far more important to the breed and to the individual cockerel -- Remember the old-timers advice to build the barn first and then paint it!! Think of them as if they were a black & white photo...and select the ones that have the traits that you want in your flock.

I'm beginning to think that there is a real correlation between long back and lowered tail angle.

 

[chicken pickin]

@chrissyr I agree with what @ChicKat has to say. They look very young, if at all possible try to hold on to them longer to see how they mature and fill in, just one more month will give you a better idea on their type. If you do need to cull now and can only hang on to some I would first look at your males and look for the obvious traits you DO NOT want passed on, red earlobes, high tails, short backs, carrying the wings too low, too large of crests etc. Also look at the boys that are seemingly smaller than the other males(though that can change as they mature) small males may not want to be used since we are trying to increase weights with this breed. You may have to go back and look at them many many times before you can really decide.

How many males are you currently trying to narrow down to keeping? You are always more than welcome to post pics of each individual male for us to look at. Don't feel like you would be taking over the thread with a pic overload. We love to see pics of CL and many people here have a very good eye and might be able to help you narrow down your choices.

You should post more pics though

 

[ChicKat]

chicken pickin -- Love that avatar !!

good food for thought!!

 

[chicken pickin]

chicken pickin -- Love that avatar !!

good food for thought!!

Thanks!

 

[chrissyr]

@chrissyr
 I agree with what @ChicKat
 has to say. They look very young, if at all possible try to hold on to them longer to see how they mature and fill in, just one more month will give you a better idea on their type. If you do need to cull now and can only hang on to some I would first look at your males and look for the obvious traits you DO NOT want passed on, red earlobes, high tails, short backs, carrying the wings too low, too large of crests etc. Also look at the boys that are seemingly smaller than the other males(though that can change as they mature) small males may not want to be used since we are trying to increase weights with this breed. You may have to go back and look at them many many times before you can really decide.

How many males are you currently trying to narrow down to keeping? You are always more than welcome to post pics of each individual male for us to look at. Don't feel like you would be taking over the thread with a pic overload. We love to see pics of CL and many people here have a very good eye and might be able to help you narrow down your choices.

You should post more pics though  

Thank you all so much. I have to narrow things down because these boys plus other breeds are weighing on my feed bill.
If I can narrow down to 4-5 for now, that would be great.
I can post individually, but the birds would have to be held. Which is I guess ok but not the best stance.
I can get good pics with them all cross crossing.
So too big of a crest in a boy is bad? I didn't realize that wasn't good.
I just want to narrow down to the best so I'll try for those pics today. And even though it's too early, maybe I can start somewhere.
And chicken pickin: that really is a nice avatar

 

[lonnyandrinda]

Thank you all so much. I have to narrow things down because these boys plus other breeds are weighing on my feed bill.
If I can narrow down to 4-5 for now, that would be great.
I can post individually, but the birds would have to be held. Which is I guess ok but not the best stance.
I can get good pics with them all cross crossing.
So too big of a crest in a boy is bad? I didn't realize that wasn't good.
I just want to narrow down to the best so I'll try for those pics today. And even though it's too early, maybe I can start somewhere.
And chicken pickin: that really is a nice avatar

If you have a wire cage you can put them in that and take a picture from outside the cage. That would be better than holding them for the photo, hard to tell body type and stance when they are held.

The reason why you don't want a large crest is because males are supposed to have a straight comb- and a large crest will push the comb over.

I agree think about your breeding goals and what the females you will be pairing them with look like. I personally would cull from short backs, squirrel tails, red earlobes, and overlarge crest or comb at this point. Also any obvious DQ like sprigs on the comb, split wing, etc. That may help narrow it down and let a few of the better ones grow out.

 

[BuffyBugSlayer]

Chrissyr, I am new to all of this but I think big crest usually means floppy comb. Or more chance of a floppy comb in the boys.

 

[chicken pickin]

Thank you all so much. I have to narrow things down because these boys plus other breeds are weighing on my feed bill.
If I can narrow down to 4-5 for now, that would be great.
I can post individually, but the birds would have to be held. Which is I guess ok but not the best stance.
I can get good pics with them all cross crossing.
So too big of a crest in a boy is bad? I didn't realize that wasn't good.
I just want to narrow down to the best so I'll try for those pics today. And even though it's too early, maybe I can start somewhere.
And chicken pickin: that really is a nice avatar

Thanks! The avatar is a head shot of my main CL cockerel for next seasons breeding.


Large crest on the male isn't ideal because it messes with the comb too much. Males with a large crest tend to have combs that may be to large, twisted, floppy and just wonky as some put it lol. A smaller crested male will likely(not always) have a somewhat straighter comb. If you pair a small crested male to a medium crested, small combed female you should end up with offspring with smaller straighter combs at least that is what we aim for.

 

[chicken pickin]

If you have a wire cage you can put them in that and take a picture from outside the cage. That would be better than holding them for the photo, hard to tell body type and stance when they are held.

The reason why you don't want a large crest is because males are supposed to have a straight comb- and a large crest will push the comb over.

I agree think about your breeding goals and what the females you will be pairing them with look like. I personally would cull from short backs, squirrel tails, white earlobes, and overlarge crest or comb at this point. Also any obvious DQ like sprigs on the comb, split wing, etc. That may help narrow it down and let a few of the better ones grow out.

psssst.... not white ear lobes. Cull for red ear lobes.