Cream Legbars

[dretd]

I think perhaps part of any controversy is that one coloration needs to be selected to obtain recognition by the American Poultry Association (APA) - since the APA requires a detailed description of the bird, and coloration is part of that detailed description, one color has to be settled on as the Standard of Perfection. For the most part, the USA is modeling on the SOP used in the UK, which has been derived from the one that R.C. Punnett himself used to get the birds recognized as a breed. So the coloration described is the classical coloration from Punnett. Without recognition by the APA, a bird in the USA isn't a breed. (Or officially isn't a breed)--- in the UK it is a breed because it has been recognized. This would matter most in the showing arena.

This whole process is really interesting. Could you elaborate on the approval process?

It sounds like from what you've said that to get a breed initially approved, you go with one type only. But there are many breeds with many different color variants approved. Did those breeds start by getting one color adopted, then add others later? How does that work?

Thanks very much for your wisdom!

 

[ChicKat]

This whole process is really interesting. Could you elaborate on the approval process?

It sounds like from what you've said that to get a breed initially approved, you go with one type only. But there are many breeds with many different color variants approved. Did those breeds start by getting one color adopted, then add others later? How does that work?

Thanks very much for your wisdom!

Ahhh - it isn't my wisdom -- there are folks in the Cream Legbar Club working on exactly this. Shortly they will be posting an article - and it does detail the process.... I'm brand new to APA-- (but I am a member to show my support for Poultry in America)-- As I understand it -- you have nailed the process, first one specific color is approved and in later years variations can be added....

Here is an excerpt from the link in which the Marans club talks about the process that they went through to get APA acceptance:
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Mr. Dickerson’s experience as a member of the APA Board was an advantage. He understood the requirements a breed must meet to be accepted: The written account of the breed’s history and proposed standard, affidavits from at least five breeders who have raised the breed for at least five years, 50 percent or more of offspring breeding close to type and birds being exhibited in APA shows for two consecutive years. At each of those shows, at least two of each cocks, hens, pullets and cockerels must be shown. The final qualifying meet must show at least 50 birds from five exhibitors in all classes of cocks, hens, cockerels and pullets. Full details are published in the APA Standard of Perfection."

Read the whole post here:
http://poultrybookstore.blogspot.com/2012/01/marans-joined-apas-recognized-breeds-in.html

Sounds grueling doesn't it??

 

[ChicKat]

Here is an interesting link:

http://forum.backyardpoultry.com/vi...sid=91657a316e779634f1fadf797d1973af&start=15

Posted in 2010 by Pyxel in Cumbria UK-- although the thread is started by someone in Austrailia--and is about Silver Legbars -- I think Aust. doesn't have Cream Legbars.... bet they wish they had a GFF over there....but I digress.

The post shows a large range of colors for Pyxel's Cream Legbars. I have to say my strong preference is for the first cockerel's coloring. The subsequent very light ones have the chestnut on the wings, so they are Cream Legbars, and the darker ones are very flashy aren't they? As I now understand it those are the CL x Welsumers

BTW, no I'm not posting this for debate LOL -- just for information on a wide range of colors that Pyxel had in 2010.

 

[lonnyandrinda]

My poor hen! Look what I just found!

Pullet egg on the left, super extra big egg on the right! Not sure if it's blood streaked because it's a pullet egg or because it was just too large for the hen...



Read the scale- yep, 64.6 grams.

 

[KPenley]

Wowzers!

 

[dretd]

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My poor hen! Look what I just found Read the scale- yep, 64.6 grams.

Yowsa! Pretty color too!

 

[ChicKat]

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Yowsa! Pretty color too!

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O.K. "divide the number of grams by 28.35 to get ounces" so, 64.6/28.35=2.27oz -- which is USDA extra large -- from a pullet - YIKES.... I'm hearing that Billy Joel song in my head called Vienna Waits for You..."Slow down you crazy child, you're so ambitions for a juvenile" --

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[1muttsfan]

Bet it's a double yolker

 

[lonnyandrinda]

Didn't look double yolked when I candled it this afternoon... just may go candle it again now that it's dark! I don't have a dark place to candle in the day.

 

[sol2go]

that was some baby egg!