Cream Legbars

Here are pics from my first separate group of chicks, they are from my dark crested pullet and main CL cock


The above is the breeding pair for these chicks(this was a test hatch for them)

I hatched 6 chicks from this pair, 2males 4females
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the females

top view of all six
 
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Here are pics from my first separate group of chicks, they are from my dark crested pullet and main CL cock
Horrible picture but these are the breeding pair for these chicks

I hatched 6 chicks from this pair, 2males 4females
male

the females

top view of all six
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Waay TOO cute! They are adorable!
 
Those are nice looking chicks, pickin. I am happy to hear you are having some hatching success! In my very limited experience (looking at pictures) of the white sport chicks, your light chick doesn't quite look like they do.
 
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OK question for y'all, I'm pretty positive that its my leg bars that are laying not the EE's, but if I hatch them do you think I will be able to tell for sure or would the chicks still look pretty much the same since they would have come from a leg bar male?

Hi Debs55--that all depends on your EE stock. Many EEs are wild type down and if that is the case, it will make it harder. Most EEs are Pea Combed so that will be your main differentiator. The babies will have a modified pea comb. I have a Brahma x CL and will try to find a picture for you. It should be rather obvious as long as the EEs are typical EEs. The legs will likely be willow instead of yellow as they grow as well. So a back-up trait. Plus most EEs have beard and muffs and the offspring will probably have partial beard and muffs so a back-up for your back-up. Between the three tells I would think that you would be able to separate them as they grow. As a caution I would assume they are mixed 'Easter Leggers' if they meet only one of these criteria.
 
Nice set of chicks! Congratulations!

I ended up with 18/24 set so a 75% hatch rate. Very good for me.
That is so great! Congrats on the chicks! I hope you get a chance to get some pics posted.

For some reason I don't have that kind of luck, it must be my incubators or my technique
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I don't get the greatest hatch rates. This batch I set 37 CL eggs one was clear and 36 went into lockdown. So far a total of 17 hatched and there are 2 pips but I don't know if they will hatch. The rest looked like late quiters. Im happy with 17 definitely but would have liked more.
 
Does anyone have a growth rate chart for CLB chicks. I started weighing mine this weekend and wanted to get some idea if they were in the ball park. Oddly the female was the heaviest.
 
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I typically have had problems with late quitters, too so I am trying small changes in my variables to see if that will help. This time I opened the incubator when I remembered which amounted to 15 minutes every other day to try to give the chicks a broody-off-the-nest cool-down. Probably only a total of 2 hours over the first 17 days. Normally I have one or two that pip on day 19, but this time none pipped early and I think it may be becasue of the cool down period.

I had one that pipped then zipped through a blood vessel and suffocated. When I eggtopsied it, it had not internally pipped and I think was in a slightly off-position. I had a late hatcher and it also appears to have not internally pipped but just zipped a little low--also indicating a possible malpositioning.

Of the 4 that are left--I haven't taken them out yet, one is what I would consider a 'normally' shaped egg with a tapered small end. The other 3 are very oval. So elliptical that I had a hard time telling which end was which. In fact, my CLB eggs tend to be on the rounder side and very elliptical in shape. I am beginning to suspect that my problem is that the chicks that die very late are unable to internally pip because of the egg shape/slight malpositioning. I suspect that when they pip internally is when they start breathing air and the breathing helps to initiate the yolk sac absorption. So when they fail to pip, they can't absorb their yolk sac and eventually die in the shell very late with a partially absorbed yolk sac.

Have you noted the shape of the egg being related to the chicks that fail to hatch? What about the position of the air cell--mine seem to be flat across the egg top instead of drawing down one side more like you normally see in normal shaped eggs.

Keeping my humidity up has always been a struggle. This time I placed vertical sponges in and it really helped to maintain a higher humidity at lockdown. Also worked really well to divide the chamber into sections for identification purposes.

I weigh all my eggs to make sure they are losing enough moisture. Of the ones that haven't hatched, I have one that only lost 9% and the others were 12-16%. The smaller loss might be a factor in the one that lost 9% although there was another that hatched fine with that amount of loss. The average was about 14%, which is considered good. Perhaps they need to lose more becasue of the rounder shape? The only time I incubated on the egg's side I had a bad hatch and many chicks malpositioned and pipping mid-egg. I did try hatching in cartons once and it didn't help but then again the humidity might have been off or there may have been another reason. I don't recall that I did an eggtopsy on those. I really don't think its a disease problem in my flock but has to be an incubation issue.
 
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It has been a while but I was talking to someone from Oregon about their Jill Reese birds. They lived somewhere between Salem and Portland if I remember correctly. I sure would like to talk to you so if you would send me a PVT I would greatly appreciate it.

Rob
 

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