Cream Legbars

[terrip824]

EGGWATCH IS OVER!!!!!

Paula laid her first egg today. Light/pale green, 1.5 oz. (The first photo makes it look darker/greener than it is, so I'm also posting one taken with it in a white bowl).





I agreed that in return she could receive the attentions of her "long distance" boyfriend, Dumble, beginning this weekend. So, Lissa, overhearing me, squatted a full wings-out squat for me for the first time today. Seems she wants some Dumble-action as well. Jenny is a bit behind - she still thinks boys are icky.

- Ant Farm

Congrats! Its a fine egg. Just think in a month or so you can set them

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Curious of why grams are requested. ;O)

1.5 oz = 42.5343 grams

Here is one converter -- and google can give you many more.


http://ouncestograms.com/

And yes, I went ahead and weighed it in grams and got 42g.

I'm home early dealing with some work stuff on my home computer, and no egg yet. Yesterday I found the egg around 5 or 6pm, and it still felt a bit sticky, so I'm thinking she's laying later in the day right now. About to go out and check again...

- Ant Farm

 

[Phage]

From FB:
The Legbars did very well!!

 

[stake]

Here's a conversation Hale or Reese? Which is better

Milkie:

Please educated me....JR is line #4, which line is Hale???

 

[FarmerMac]

Quote:

Looks like the real deal to me. Congrats on getting CLs! Great avatar BTW.

Thanks ChicKat, My avatar is one of my Cubalayas

Yep!!!! They look like CLB Cockerels to me!!!

Looks like a CCL. They are sweet birds and in my experience so far quieter than some other breeds.

Thank you all for the feedback. I thought it was a good deal for 5 bucks each. Can't wait to see how they look when they get older. They are very docile, they follow me around when I let the flock out of the coop.

 

[GaryDean26]

Milkie:

Please educated me....JR is line #4, which line is Hale???

Jill Rees is the breeder that the Rees line descends from. I know she had stock in her line from Jillly (Potter) Tate. She said that Jilly's birds were darker int he breast than she liked but that they were somewhere in her line. I think she also had birds from David Francis. His birds may not be in her line anywhere though because she said that Francis' line had the recessive white gene and that she got rid of his birds. I assume that she also had birds from Emily Degray (?) since Emily and her seem to be two peas in a pod and Emily had show winning stock around the time that Jill started with the breed and when Emily got out of Cream Legbar for several year she referred everyone looking for her stock to Jill. I am not sure how many sources Jill's line is from but she breed birds from many breeder for 4 years before she started showing her legbars. Green fire imported stock from her line a few years after she started showing.

Curtis Hale is the breeder that the Hale line descends from. He had gold legbars from April Howington (developed over 6 years from barred rocks and brown leghorns) before the GFF imported lines were available in the USA. While working with gold legbars he made plans to recreate the cream legbar but the GFF imported Cream Legbars became available in the USA before he got very far on that project and so he got imported GFF Cream Legbar stock from the 2011 GFF flocks and has just focused on breeding those lines to the breed standard. His line is exclusively from the early GFF lines and has no blood in it from the 2013 GFF flock and no blood from the greenfire farm Rees flock.

So with the Hale line you have the old Greenfire lines that were prolific layers, that laid well colored eggs, that produced some cockerels with good comb/crest combination (i.e. erect combs with a modest crest), that produced some hens laying really big eggs eggs (some were averaging 68-72 grams eggs), Some hens were broody (and good mothers too). etc.

The Rees line of course is an exhibition line. There have been some very pretty hens coming from this line.

I don't know how the Rees line compares with the early GFF lines or how the Rees line compares with the older lines in mature weight etc. but know that some people that started with the older lines will not be bringing any of the new blood into their flocks because they have already bred out defects that the newer lines contain.

At any rate there are now option in the USA for different blood lines of Cream Legbars. That being the old Greenfire lines that are now producing many well bred strains (i.e. Hale strain) that have retained the strengths of the early imports while breeding out their weaknesses as well as the unrealated Rees line that offers different strengths and weaknesses. Many of the older lines have NOT been improved and still contain all the weakness that they were imported with. If you are going to get hatchery birds that are not from culled flocks and are not from selectively paired breeding then the Rees line is probably the better bet. If you can find a breeder that does a good job of culling and knows how to pair up breeding groups then that is going to be your best bet regardless of what source the breeder's foundation stock is from.

 

[stake]

Jill Rees is the breeder that the Rees line descends from. I know she had stock in her line from Jillly (Potter) Tate. She said that Jilly's birds were darker int he breast than she liked but that they were somewhere in her line. I think she also had birds from David Francis. His birds may not be in her line anywhere though because she said that Francis' line had the recessive white gene and that she got rid of his birds. I assume that she also had birds from Emily Degray (?) since Emily and her seem to be two peas in a pod and Emily had show winning stock around the time that Jill started with the breed and when Emily got out of Cream Legbar for several year she referred everyone looking for her stock to Jill. I am not sure how many sources Jill's line is from but she breed birds from many breeder for 4 years before she started showing her legbars. Green fire imported stock from her line a few years after she started showing.

Curtis Hale is the breeder that the Hale line descends from. He had gold legbars from April Howington (developed over 6 years from barred rocks and brown leghorns) before the GFF imported lines were available in the USA. While working with gold legbars he made plans to recreate the cream legbar but the GFF imported Cream Legbars became available in the USA before he got very far on that project and so he got imported GFF Cream Legbar stock from the 2011 GFF flocks and has just focused on breeding those lines to the breed standard. His line is exclusively from the early GFF lines and has no blood in it from the 2013 GFF flock and no blood from the greenfire farm Rees flock.

So with the Hale line you have the old Greenfire lines that were prolific layers, that laid well colored eggs, that produced some cockerels with good comb/crest combination (i.e. erect combs with a modest crest), that produced some hens laying really big eggs eggs (some were averaging 68-72 grams eggs), Some hens were broody (and good mothers too). etc.

The Rees line of course is an exhibition line. There have been some very pretty hens coming from this line.

I don't know how the Rees line compares with the early GFF lines or how the Rees line compares with the older lines in mature weight etc. but know that some people that started with the older lines will not be bringing any of the new blood into their flocks because they have already bred out defects that the newer lines contain.

At any rate there are now option in the USA for different blood lines of Cream Legbars. That being the old Greenfire lines that are now producing many well bred strains (i.e. Hale strain) that have retained the strengths of the early imports while breeding out their weaknesses as well as the unrealated Rees line that offers different strengths and weaknesses. Many of the older lines have NOT been improved and still contain all the weakness that they were imported with. If you are going to get hatchery birds that are not from culled flocks and are not from selectively paired breeding then the Rees line is probably the better bet. If you can find a breeder that does a good job of culling and knows how to pair up breeding groups then that is going to be your best bet regardless of what source the breeder's foundation stock is from.

Thanks for the education.

 

[OneMountainAcres]

WOO! My quad comes on Monday but there's been a slight change since the guy I'm getting them from only had one young cockerel left and 2 of us that wanted one, he asked if I would be interested in an older, extra reese cockerel that he has instead! I'm a bit ecstatic at the moment

 

[OneMountainAcres]

My quad has arrived! What do you guys think? I'll get better pictures later of course, this is just what i could get first thing. The roo is reese line. The 3 young pullets are easy to tell apart. The dark one in the back is Stormy, the one beside her is Cher, and the light colored one at the food dish is Luna

 

[OneMountainAcres]

I took a couple better pictures of the girls. They are not coppery like the pictures look. The sun was coming up and shining pink through the windows lol

Cher

Luna

Stormy