Cream Legbars?

[Kev]

Why be so literal with the colors and breeds? A bbred is the same whether on a bbr araucana or an EE.. barred is the same whether on a rock or a cuckoo leghorn.. in fact it probably would be much easier to acquire or use Creles as these are bbr with sex linked barring.. thats a bird in hand right there.. no need to battle extended black or birchen from BR or cuckoo leghorns.

Does not have to be out of araucana or leghorn to recreate a Cream Legbar looking bird. Leghorn is a good idea for the type and production though.. Don't even have to use an araucana.. any bird with the O gene will work. Don't even have to use an british type araucana either.. any bird or breed with small crest genes will work exactly the same for this purpose.

For all this talking, I'm still wondering how you guys plan to come up with single comb and also the cream gene necessary for the autosexing. To use the 'bar' part in the name you have to make it an autosexing bird otherwise it cannot be properly called that. (btw I do think a clean headed Legbar would be much more appealing)

BTW one more thing.. most leghorn lines have genes that actively repress any egg pigmentaion so you will also have to worry about the eggs being too pale or even white, or "going white" after the first few colored eggs.

What about American marans that makes them distinct? New one to me unless English was intended.

 

[Ace_king_brahma]

Does not have to be out of araucana or leghorn to recreate a Cream Legbar looking bird. Leghorn is a good idea for the type and production though.. Don't even have to use an araucana.. any bird with the O gene will work. Don't even have to use an british type araucana either.. any bird or breed with small crest genes will work exactly the same for this purpose.

I'm not out to make a cream legbar like bird. I wanted to go with the original breeds for the reason of getting a close replica. Even if my birds don't have the crest I'm fine with it or could even try adding on down the line.

For all this talking, I'm still wondering how you guys plan to come up with single comb and also the cream gene necessary for the autosexing. To use the 'bar' part in the name you have to make it an autosexing bird otherwise it cannot be properly called that. (btw I do think a clean headed Legbar would be much more appealing)

That's why I'm asking about legbars. Looking for reference material to get ready before I start this project.

BTW one more thing.. most leghorn lines have genes that actively repress any egg pigmentaion so you will also have to worry about the eggs being too pale or even white, or "going white" after the first few colored eggs.

That's a bridge I'll have to cross though I'm not the first. If it was done once it can be done again is how I see it.

I don't agree with using an EE. Even if it lays blue eggs there is a chance of hidden egg color genes. I might wind up fighting with green and other shades while dealing with the leghorn genes and the barred rock as well.

I know this won't be a simple 1-2 year task and could even take a good deal of generations of crosses but if I'm willing to try my hand at it I'm going to try and follow the original "recipe" as so to say to getting cream legbars.​