Creating A New Breed? *Pics*

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I've always wondered about the techniques and knowledge behind creating new chicken breeds, such as breeding certain roosters to certain hens and picking and choosing them for certain characteristics until the desired breed with all the desired characteristics is accomplished.
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Such as the Chocolate Orpington project, Mille Fleur Silkie project (I don't know if anyone is working on this but I saw a thread somewhere in this forum about it), etc...But if you want certain characteristics in a breed that you "create" yourself, how do you do that? What are the "techniques" used when trying to create a new breed? I've always found it interesting to mix completely different chicken breeds together and see what you get as the result...Just recently I mixed our standard Splash Cochin rooster with our standard Buff Orpington hen (who could have had a Barred Rock mixed in with her in the past, someone on here suggested, because she has some faint gray barring in her tail and isn't as fluffy as normal Buff Orps are suppose to be). I crossed them and what I got was this:
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This is Ivory, my experiment hatch chick.
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He is mostly buff colored, but has a few different feathers mixed in...He has some gray in his tail, feet, and wings, and the small wing/shoulder feathers seem to have some strange pattern on them. His wings are a darker, glossier shade of buff than the rest of his body. Someone said he looked like he had the coloring of a Blue Buff Columbian (like this: http://www.cleulow.com/mediac/400_0/media/Blue$20Buff$20cock.jpg). I think this is true, only Ivory's colors aren't as pronounced. The buff coloring seems to overpower all the rest of the other colors, such as the gray.
So what if I wanted to enhance the other colors and lessen the buff coloring? How would I know what breed to cross him with to get that result? Just curious.
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Here are some profile pictures of Ivory taken today at 97 days old: (his growth was stunted, which is why he;s so small at his agefor those of you who have seen his thread with daily updates about him)

Head:
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Feet: (his actual feet are a pink/gray color. His mother had white/pink feet, his feather had green/gray feet)
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Body:
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Wings: (notice that all of his flight feathers are half gray and buff...And I found a few feathers that are half dark gray with white mixed in and half buff, which is odd because there the only ones mainly on one wing, I noticed.
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See the odd black/white feather?
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Here's the few feathers on his wings/shoulders that I was talking about...They almost look a little barred.
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So what do you think I could do for a little project to get a unique and different breed from Ivory? Any ideas? We may be getting some hens for him soon and I want to think about what breeds would result in breeding Ivory with a certain breed. Does Ivory qualify for a little breeding project? What breeds might go well with his characteristics? Thanks!

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No idea, but I'm going to be watching this thread.
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ETA: Forgot to put that I love his coloring. So pretty!
 
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I'm gonna go to the breeds database to check them out. The possibilities are endless when you're starting out with a new flock. I have Ivory as the rooster, and I'm hoping to get some hens to go with him soon. And since I'm paying for them, I get to pick them out.
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Now off to look at some breeds and see which ones would have the most interesting result when mixed with Ivory...
 
To successfully create a breed there has to be a reason. What are you really trying to achieve? A new color, a better layer, a better meat bird, a better dual bird, or just something to call your own? That will be what determines what your next move is. Also, if you're creating a breed you have to have at least 5 roosters and I would say 25 hens to really know what you're crosses are hatching. You will have to cull extensively for the traits you want too. 1 rooster and you'll be really inbreeding before too long and all of your work will be for nothing. Good luck though. I am on my 4th generation of breeding for a more efficient green egg layer myself, I call them Reels (Rooke's Easter Egg Layers). It is a lot of hard work, research and forethought, but it is so worth it! I hope you keep us posted.
 
I don't think you can mate a mutt with anything and get a new breed from what I have read the parents have to be of pure bred blood line then it will take you forever because you need to find the one bird who has what you want in it and so on and so on till you get a strong breed line out of them.

As for Ivory I would go with Buff's or Barred Rocks. or whatever else you think you would like to create out of him.

Good Luck keep us posted.
 
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I would do it only for myself just to get a small flock of different mutt breeds of different colors. Not for show or any real purpose, just for fun and for a more colorful flock. So I don't think that requires trying to get a certain characteristic; I find it interesting to mix two differently-colored breeds and then hatch out an egg because you never know what you'll get from it.
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Then you have the reward of admiring all the different and beautiful colors of the mutt chicks that you hatch!
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I don't know anything about breeding at all but I think you should breed him with some barred rocks to get more barred but still keep the buf in there! That would be so cool! Reading all of this makes me want to experiment but I'm not aloud to...
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