Crossing barnevelder colors?

[DK newbie]

Hello all!
I am the very happy owner of 8 barnevelder chicks that are a few days old.
4 of them are double laced brown/black, the other 4 are silvers - I'm not actually sure if they are double laced or not. They are shown below.

I picked them up at a hatchery and I saw the parents of the brown ones. There were only one roo and 2 hens. Pic below.

That means all the brown chicks are closely related. So I would like to know, what would I get if I were to breed the brown ones with the silvers? Should I rather go and get a few more of each color at a different place?

 

[Sneebsey]

Your biggest problem here will be that the Silvers likely won't have the Mahogany gene which the Red ones need to give them that deep brown colour. You want to ensure that all your stock have two copies of this gene to ensure that a golden one doesn't pop out somewhere down the road.

In addition to this, Silver is dominant, hence its' use in Red Sex-links. Females carry only one copy, so can be Silver or Gold, but cockerels can have two copies of Gold or Silver, or one of each. With this in mind, any female offspring from a Silver male will be Silver.

If you absolutely cannot find any unrelated stock to breed with your reds, you could do a sex-linked cross between your Silver females and a Red male, keeping only the pullets from this cross to breed back to another Red male, trying to breed back to the Mahogany you need - this will be tricky, however, as Mahogany is also dominant, hence only half of the offspring from your F1 females to Red male will have two copies of the gene and you will not be able to tell which.

 

[DK newbie]

Thank you! This is just what I was looking for.
I know of at least two other sources that sells them, but one has pictures of the parents and I don't really think they are as pretty as the ones in the picture above, the other one doesn't have pictures and the chicks cost twice as much. But I suppose I'll try to get some pictures from the second one, then I can make my choice.

 

[Sneebsey]

It would be far harder to breed a poorly bred bird back to the standard than to work with good examples of the standard in the wrong colour; I've always been told to breed for type, production, and other qualities first, colour comes last.

 

[nicalandia]

Hello all!
I am the very happy owner of 8 barnevelder chicks that are a few days old.
4 of them are double laced brown/black, the other 4 are silvers - I'm not actually sure if they are double laced or not. They are shown below.

I picked them up at a hatchery and I saw the parents of the brown ones. There were only one roo and 2 hens. Pic below.

That means all the brown chicks are closely related. So I would like to know, what would I get if I were to breed the brown ones with the silvers? Should I rather go and get a few more of each color at a different place?

Would be interesting to see the result of the cross on the F1 roosters, they will be "Golden" S/s+ and they will have Yellow hackels, darker saddle and perhaps even red shoulders, but the breast will be silver, like the Gold x Silver wyandotte crosses