Cruelty to Chickens in Factories

[Sophia5]

 

[cubalaya]

it is unsustainable. it is unnatural. people have become too lazy and spoiled to keep and kill their own chickens. this factory method keeps cheap meat on the table for americans. the factory pork and beef is even worse and also unsustainable.

 

[My Pretties]

All the more reason why we in Cedar Park are trying to change ordinances to allow for backyard chickens. At this point my love affair with all things chickens prevents me from eating what for many years was in top #10 favorites, fried chicken. After seeing a documentary on Netflix about Factory Farms, I've gone vegetarian. No longer will I support factory farms for any meat production!

 

[bachbach1]

You know I am really a compassionate guy, but I am a guy guy, I like to get a back pack and go into the woods for days, that being said I do love my soft leather couch too. I probably have a different idea about this than many people do, I will share it with you. I look at mother (mother nature) as I call her, and the reality's of life, survival, and what it takes to survive. All in all mother is one cruel lady, but that cant be changed. It isn't mankind that is cruel it is mother. In order for there to be life there has to be death. Even if you are a vegan, you support killing plants, you take a bath and wash off and kill millions of germs, you purify water and kill millions of micro organisms. You probably trap and kill mice, use products to kill bugs, and the biggie, eat meat. We didn't choose all this carnage, mother did, we were born into it. Even in our digestive system we use billions of micro organisms and digest many of them, killing billions of them. Bottom line is when you look at death in regard to food, you have to get over it when it comes to eating, and living, it isn't up to us. Killing animals by any means is ugly, killing, is death, how can you make that pretty. It is a little dark, and in today's society people tend to isolate themselves from the death of their food so they can survive. Many people go to McDonald's and be oblivious to where that Big Mac came from. I say embrace mother because you cant beat her, it has been this way since the beginning of time. So I just say with no malice just realize mother is in charge, and life cost death. Beyond that I had an organic farmer once tell me how his chickens were so happy, and how he was loosing free range chickens to 4 legged predators, and hawks too. The I thought about chickens are on wire, they don't have the terror of being chased by predators. They are safe in a cage on wire. They are provided for, and don't eat bugs, and any nasty they can find on the ground. Anyway he went on to talk about the wonders of his method of raising them, and how happy they were. I looked at him and said, yeah you still kill them, the end game is all the same, that is the cold hard reality, mother again. To a large degree the so called humane treatment of animals is for the human psyche, mother has set the end game. Now that being said anyone being cruel and hurting any animal on purpose is really twisted. But killing an animal to eat is killing an animal to eat even if you sing it a song while you are cutting it's throat. Mother is cruel, we are her slaves, and processing an animal for food is as natural as talking and walking. Mother is tough, food lives it dies, so we can live. It isnt pretty, but it is real, be humane, killing and cleaning animals isnt for everyone, but don't down anyone who has the spine to do what it takes. Good Luck

 

[chickortreat]

I was raised on a broiler farm. I helped raise well over a million chickens in my youth. If America wants to be fed, it's how it must be done. Look at large-scale farming. A farmer is not going to grow enough corn/wheat/whatever in a 2-acre lot out back and make a living hauling his goods to farmers' market. He's got to plant a thousand acres or more to come out ahead. One is not going to raise enough poultry for commercial consumption in a field full of cute little chicken tractors, all full of happy chickens.

 

[cubalaya]

how it must be done? so the corporations can make the most amount of profit from these frankenchickens? what about the groundwater and runoff from all the chicken manure? it is unsustainable.

 

[My Pretties]

I realize animals were given to man for the purpose of food AND pets. I don't argue the good taste of a steak or fried chicken either, although I gag on chicken now that I raise them. I feel almost like I'm a cannibal, but that is just my own sensitivity. There is no reason that animals can't be raised in a humane fashion and not "harvested" like I saw chickens being harvested with a tractor that took live chickens and de-feathered them in the most inhumane way while alive. There ARE ways to not pollute and to humanely butcher the animals, and farmers will not have an interest in this until people quit buying what they are selling.

 

[olefarmersdaughter]

You know I am really a compassionate guy, but I am a guy guy, I like to get a back pack and go into the woods for days, that being said I do love my soft leather couch too. I probably have a different idea about this than many people do, I will share it with you. I look at mother (mother nature) as I call her, and the reality's of life, survival, and what it takes to survive. All in all mother is one cruel lady, but that cant be changed. It isn't mankind that is cruel it is mother. In order for there to be life there has to be death. Even if you are a vegan, you support killing plants, you take a bath and wash off and kill millions of germs, you purify water and kill millions of micro organisms. You probably trap and kill mice, use products to kill bugs, and the biggie, eat meat. We didn't choose all this carnage, mother did, we were born into it. Even in our digestive system we use billions of micro organisms and digest many of them, killing billions of them. Bottom line is when you look at death in regard to food, you have to get over it when it comes to eating, and living, it isn't up to us. Killing animals by any means is ugly, killing, is death, how can you make that pretty. It is a little dark, and in today's society people tend to isolate themselves from the death of their food so they can survive. Many people go to McDonald's and be oblivious to where that Big Mac came from. I say embrace mother because you cant beat her, it has been this way since the beginning of time. So I just say with no malice just realize mother is in charge, and life cost death. Beyond that I had an organic farmer once tell me how his chickens were so happy, and how he was loosing free range chickens to 4 legged predators, and hawks too. The I thought about chickens are on wire, they don't have the terror of being chased by predators. They are safe in a cage on wire. They are provided for, and don't eat bugs, and any nasty they can find on the ground. Anyway he went on to talk about the wonders of his method of raising them, and how happy they were. I looked at him and said, yeah you still kill them, the end game is all the same, that is the cold hard reality, mother again. To a large degree the so called humane treatment of animals is for the human psyche, mother has set the end game. Now that being said anyone being cruel and hurting any animal on purpose is really twisted. But killing an animal to eat is killing an animal to eat even if you sing it a song while you are cutting it's throat. Mother is cruel, we are her slaves, and processing an animal for food is as natural as talking and walking. Mother is tough, food lives it dies, so we can live. It isnt pretty, but it is real, be humane, killing and cleaning animals isnt for everyone, but don't down anyone who has the spine to do what it takes. Good Luck

Very well said.......

 

[chickortreat]

how it must be done? so the corporations can make the most amount of profit from these frankenchickens? what about the groundwater and runoff from all the chicken manure? it is unsustainable.

All I meant was that you're not about to raise enough chickens to feed your town in a handful of chicken tractors. You're going to have to raise them large-scale, which often means having to do things in a manner that some folks find unacceptable. That said, in all the years I worked in a broiler house, I NEVER ONCE overheard a single chicken complaining about how he/she was being treated. They are chickens, not people. And while I try to take good care of my little flock, I refuse to lose a minute's sleep over what I might regard as unacceptable practices in the raising of commercial poultry. From what I've heard, there are cattle outfits that are pretty barbaric as well. That's why we eat lots of deer meat. Fresh, organic, and nearly free!

 

[My Pretties]

Of COURSE you've never heard your chickens complain about how they are treated. How ridiculous is that. I've never heard the dog next door complain to the owner "Your son picks me up by my ears, make him stop!" either. I truly never gave it much thought as I enjoyed my fried chicken, until I had chicken in my own yard and see how they respond to people and each other. Very social beings that come to their name, intelligence exhibited. After watching a documentary on Factory Farms and the hazardous waste, I realized I could not support such an industry of torture. No they don't complain, they are only existing. I buy my chickens from a farmer who raises his chickens in a pasture where they are all over the place; another farm in Burnet, TX where I bought my breeding pair of rabbits for my rabbitry, raises their ducks, geese, and chickens in large fenced enclosures. They are not packed in, have natural cover for inclement weather, and live as free a life as a bird could hope for. They eat as many bugs as they want and have feed as well. It can be done. People pay top dollar for what these two locations produce...humanely and with respect for the animals in their care.