Cuckoo Ameraucanas

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

Hi Lynne! This is as close as I've been able to get toward slate legs on my Barr-'Aucana:

I just moved this blue barred guy (somebody tell me he is BB, not Bb) :

in with the barred bearded green-egger girls

(roo pictured is no longer in the pen).

And I have another barred bearded white-skinned guy (that I *think* is BB) in with some blue and black Ameraucana girls.

I'd be interested in trading eggs if anyone has more going out there.

Lisa

 

[rancher hicks]

tgrlily - I was thinking of borrowing your guy. Though she has a few months to go before she lays , so we might have to wait til spring.

Dipsy - I'm not really putting an effort into this thing and I don't know much about Amer's and all that stuff.

 

[TK Poultry]

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I'm not sure what you mean by "inacting that gene". I was also wondering if once the line was developed the APA would allow a different standard for the Barred Ameraucana Breed. They might just consider it another breed like the White Rhode Island Red. From what I've learned the two are not related. A consistent breeding of Barred Ameraucanas could have a different standard than other types and colors.

So tgrlily what do you think of my EE? What Ameracuana do you have that has the barring gene? Is it a roo?

Jean Ribbecks whites have the barring gene and I was tossing around doing the Barred and Mahogany Ameraucanas BUT there are alot of obstacles to over come when it comes to those two colors. They can carry the gene without expressing it. by inacting the gene so to speak your allowing it to express itself and when it does that is when it messes with the leg color.

"... it has been demonstrated that the sex linked barring gene prevents dermal melanin, so would be shocked if your birds had slate legs. It is possible they have some dark pigment in the epidermis (outside layer of skin) but that is not the same as slate. ..." --- Mike Gilbert on the ABC Forum on a thread started by Anne Foley regarding Cuckoo Ameraucana projects

"...What you see is dark pigment in the epidermis. The males will not have this, or at least as much of it. This is no different than the pigment you would see in a barred rock pullet, except the epidermis also contains yellow...." --- Mike Gilbert on the ABC Forum on a thread started by Anne Foley who had some Cuckoo project Ameraucana LF.

"The Standard's range for shank color includes slate, dark slate, very dark slate and black. If you can get a barred, cuckoo or other variety to breed true for any type of true slate (from light to dark) or black shanks I would think you have a viable variety. "--- John Blehm on the same thread.

I'm not being a downer or annoying but its really just not possible. I would LOVE to do it too but there is just really no way. I don't thing that you could make a new breed out of them either. Maybe Cuckoo Araucanas which they already have but I don't think they breed them steadily.

 

[tgrlily]

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I can grow you one!

I have a ton of White Ameraucana chicks right now. He'll have a full harem of White Amer girls by next spring. Right now since he only has one, I put the Wheaten girls in with him to experiment.

 

[pips&peeps]

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I don't think you would have any success with even a slightly dark leg on a cuckoo lavender as both genes are "diluters" of color.

in the 1970's they all agreed slate legs were a must, therefore no sitting ABC president will budge and even consider making this a topic because of that

I agree with this statement and will honor the wishes of the founding members of our club.

But, there is no "law" against making whatever color you want and having fun with it. I just don't see cuckoo being accepted anytime soon.​

 

[klf73]

well, I am getting some cream legbars and making a crele ameraucana....will never be accepted but I don't care...just LOVE the muffs/beard

 

[TK Poultry]

pips&peeps :

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I don't think you would have any success with even a slightly dark leg on a cuckoo lavender as both genes are "diluters" of color.

in the 1970's they all agreed slate legs were a must, therefore no sitting ABC president will budge and even consider making this a topic because of that

I agree with this statement and will honor the wishes of the founding members of our club.

But, there is no "law" against making whatever color you want and having fun with it. I just don't see cuckoo being accepted anytime soon.

I understand... I just think it would be very pretty. I thought about just making some just because. I guess just layers. I thought that it could have been a viable variety about 6-8 months ago until I researched it...​

 

[Goose and Fig]

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I've been trying for Lav Cuckoo. I made a bunch of splits with cuckoo marans, but apparently my lavs are not dominant for pea combs and they chicks all have single combs

I was just trying for Olive Eggers at first, but looks like they'll just lay a marans-ish egg.

 

[TK Poultry]

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I've been trying for Lav Cuckoo. I made a bunch of splits with cuckoo marans, but apparently my lavs are not dominant for pea combs and they chicks all have single combs

I was just trying for Olive Eggers at first, but looks like they'll just lay a marans-ish egg.

I was thinking about doing it so my garage chicken would have friends and not be a garage chicken anymore...

 

[rancher hicks]

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I can grow you one!

I have a ton of White Ameraucana chicks right now. He'll have a full harem of White Amer girls by next spring. Right now since he only has one, I put the Wheaten girls in with him to experiment.

Oh I see how it is. I can loan you my hen but you won't loan your roo. I get it now. I really don't want it anyhow.