Danged ole do good neighbor killed my chickens!

We really don't know the situation - it's wrong to talk about having "no tolerance for a child like that", or call the parents irresponsible when we don't know the dynamics of the relationship between the two families. The two families may, after all, have an open door policy. My kids' friends never knock. They know they're always welcome here. Heck, when the doorbell rings we all look at each other like, "what was that??" (the aforementioned kids are all adults now, but they still drop by when the gang is home) OP does have some ownership in the situation, too, by leaving the garage door unlocked. Not placing blame here, so don't string me up. But if you're going to be gone and don't want someone opening your doors, lock them! Next time it might be someone coming in to steal them blind instead of a child coming over to play. It was an accident, not an act of maliciousness on the part of the child. I still commend OP's handling of the situation. They made it clear to NEVER let the dogs out again without asking. That was their kind, compassionate respsonse. Not a lot of either of those qualities showing up in some of these posts. They showed the child GRACE (receiving something we don't deserve - in this case the guilt and self-blame of what happened to the chickens) and MERCY (not receiving punishment that we do deserve). I've said it before, and I'll say it again - human relationships are more important than anything else.
 
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I'm close to being with you except for the last 8 words. While my opinion is no more legitimate than anyone elses, I don't believe in any way shape or form that human relationships are unequivocally more important than anything else. Amongst the important things, maybe, but not always. Some people are not worth having a relationship with because they are utterly self absorbed or whatever. In this particular case, it seems no one had bad intentions, so that's something, but still horrible outcome
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Here. all the suffering and death rank right up there in my mind in terms of most important. Those involved will hopefully sort out their role in causing this to happen to innocent beings.

So many examples on BYC of neighbors repeatedly and irresponsibly letting their dogs run at large and harming BYCers birds, often people who do not care in the least about the devastating impact of their actions, even after the bird guardian has tried to reason with them. In these cases I would argue the human relationship ranks at the bottom. Being the voice for defenseless birds who cannot speak for themselves after being torn to shreds, so as to pave the way for a better future for others of their kind, is perhaps our highest calling. JJ
 
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I'm close to being with you except for the last 8 words. While my opinion is no more legitimate than anyone elses, I don't believe in any way shape or form that human relationships are unequivocally more important than anything else. Amongst the important things, maybe, but not always. Some people are not worth having a relationship with because they are utterly self absorbed or whatever. In this particular case, it seems no one had bad intentions, so that's something, but still horrible outcome
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Here. all the suffering and death rank right up there in my mind in terms of most important. Those involved will hopefully sort out their role in causing this to happen to innocent beings.

So many examples on BYC of neighbors repeatedly and irresponsibly letting their dogs run at large and harming BYCers birds, often people who do not care in the least about the devastating impact of their actions, even after the bird guardian has tried to reason with them. In these cases I would argue the human relationship ranks at the bottom. Being the voice for defenseless birds who cannot speak for themselves after being torn to shreds, so as to pave the way for a better future for others of their kind, is perhaps our highest calling. JJ

Well said. Death and suffering is intolerable when it is the consequence of others apathy.
 
I am going to post a sign at the main approach to our shack; Chickens at Large! Just like the cattlemen around here do for their range stock.
Thank you for sharing this story. Sorry for this to have happened.
Unbelievable... after reading this post I can only sit back and wonder. I would hope something good comes from it all.
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Kids are kids and will do things that we would rather they didn't if they don't know that what they are doing is wrong. Also, in the state of NC it would be perfectly legal to leave my 8 year old son home alone...I don't do that, but I would be within my legal rights to do so, so slamming the parents of a 9 year old girl for being outside unsupervised is a little ridiculous, in my opinion. Didn't anyone else play outside all day in the summertime as a kid? I would be gone from dawn till dusk riding my bike and hanging out with the other kids or even alone... if this OP has such a good relationship with the neighbors that their child has been welcomed to come over without knocking, then I do not fault the child for doing what she has been allowed to do before. The OP learned from it and is now keeping the dogs contained more securely when they aren't home. Why break a child's heart by telling her? The OP has used great restraint and maturity and I applaud them. Chickens are animals, people ARE more important. I don't care how much I detest someone, if it came to their life or the life of my favorite CHICKEN, you can bet I'm saving the PERSON.
 
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Kids are kids and will do things that we would rather they didn't if they don't know that what they are doing is wrong. Also, in the state of NC it would be perfectly legal to leave my 8 year old son home alone...I don't do that, but I would be within my legal rights to do so, so slamming the parents of a 9 year old girl for being outside unsupervised is a little ridiculous, in my opinion. Didn't anyone else play outside all day in the summertime as a kid? I would be gone from dawn till dusk riding my bike and hanging out with the other kids or even alone... if this OP has such a good relationship with the neighbors that their child has been welcomed to come over without knocking, then I do not fault the child for doing what she has been allowed to do before. The OP learned from it and is now keeping the dogs contained more securely when they aren't home. Why break a child's heart by telling her? The OP has used great restraint and maturity and I applaud them. Chickens are animals, people ARE more important. I don't care how much I detest someone, if it came to their life or the life of my favorite CHICKEN, you can bet I'm saving the PERSON.

I agree with you guys but i still think that if the OP and the neighbor really were close friends or had a good relationship, then the neighbor would feel obliged to give some kind of compensation for her loss. I would have felt terrible if my child was accidentally responsible for wiping out a whole flock and i would definitely be on top of replacing them.​
 
Ok just finished reading the whole post (should have done that sooner).
If it was my child, I would want the owner of the chickens to come to me (not my child at 9 yrs of age) . And tell me what had happened and what the damage was. And I would deal with the child and have them make amends with the owners to the best of her abilities, even if it was just an heartfelt appology. I would handle the finianial part being the adult.

Im sure the little girl didn't mean any harm she was doing what she did apparently all time, They Chicken owners and Neighbors have a relationship of some type, (My children never went into anyones house without knocking and getting a response first, not even to their Aunts house. but some folks have a different kind of relationship with neighbors and family. And I have to respect however the chicken owner chose to deal with the problem.

Yes the little girl did what she did, and this time there was a horrible , tramatic thing happen, And I would be willing to bet that she will never do that again, it wasn't like she was a 15 yr old Juvinile Deliquent. She was a little girl that was just doing what was perfectly acceptable at the time. I feel so bad for the chicken owner but I think she handled the situation very well. Just my thoughts, Sandy
 
After reading all the post again, I most definitely see God made man and woman so different in their thinking. And that's how it should be. In the crazy world we are in I still think we have designated roles on earth. These reading prove my point. Men say get to the root of the problem and fix it. The women say it's really nobodys fault, just smooth it all over. Don't scold the little girl. I can see a need for both attitudes.

My last statement on this is that the young lady was fine out by herself if her mother said it was alright. In the forty's and fifties that was the norm. At least where I lived. Still we did not tresspass onto someone elses home. That was not tolerated by any parent at that time. But for the child to have been taught not to touch anything at anytime that was not on her property was a shortcoming on her rearing by the parents. The worst part to me is opening a door to a neighbor's home. What if by chance the girl had been attacked. Then the owners would have been at fault for harboring vicious dogs and the door wasn't locked. And to think it all would have been avoided if my rule about hand off the door had of been taught.

This has been a good one for sure. Really some deep thinking here.
 

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