d'anver lovers,discuss the breed and post some pics!

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

haha

Just waiting around for you JJ.

Cynthia,

That's right, your first cross will be all millie fluer all split to lavender.

JJ pretty much had it all right. Off spring inherit one copy of each gene from each parent, and lavender is recessive so it takes two doses for it to be expressed. In the cases of splits, the parent only has 1 copy itself, so half it's offspring will get a copy the other half wont,
So they would breed like this

mf split to mf (only 1 lavender gene to work with ) = all millies 50% being splits
mf split to porcelain (3 lavender genes to work with ) = 50% mf split and 50% porcelain
mf split to mf split ( 2 lavender genes to work with) = 1/3 millies 1/3 porcelain and 1/3 millie splits


So yes, either way you go, on the f2 cross you will be getting more millies too. The porcelain to split millies is going to be your best route to getting more porcelains though, and you'll know for sure your millies are also splits too. The other wyas you never know who got what because they will physically look the same, Would be a guess who to pair to who to get more levender. And if you dont get lavender, then you know for sure only 1 isnt split, but which one? So then you'd have to continue breeding them to others til you figured it all out. Could be real time consuming.

So for sure, I'd go F1 split to Porcelain and take the easy way out with it

 

[adubsroit]

In the past month my boyfriend and I allowed our Quail d'Anver hen to go broody in our garage behind some bales of alfalfa. She has tried going broody a few times in the past but never found such a private place.. that the bigger hens couldn't kick her out of, lol. The boyfriend and I had been living in North Eastern Oregon but moved out to the Mt. Shasta area of Northern California where the mountain weather is nothing new to us, or the birds. However we did not expect the winds - 60 mph gusts are child play now - so when we realized our d'Anver had A LOT (about 9 eggs under her) we figured it best to take some of the eggs and set them in the incubator with our Saxony duck eggs. Of the 4 eggs we set only 3 hatched, and she still has 5 under her (with a Cubalaya egg or two also) but here is the real reason for this post: we don't know who the daddy is.

Of the 3 chicks that hatched all are the same exact color, with minor discrepancies in their chipmunking. Again, the mama is a quail d'Anver but the dad may be: a Buff Chantecler, a Wheaten Cubalaya or a Millie Fleur d'Anver (from Boggy Bottoms). I assume that due to their uniformity that the parents are both genetically pure to their pattern/color - or at least darn near so - giving reason to the uniformity of the progeny. Been playing with the chicken calculator but I am just not as familiar with real world examples of what I am looking at, especially because this cross is so random.. Here are some pictures and let the guessing begin:

Their faces all look like this, a creamy sort of color that fades into a buff and off-white chipmunk stripe. Looks very much like the faces on a Quail d'Anver.

Here is a profile of one of them. Their sides at hatch looked almost lavender but have revealed themselves to be a smokey, dark grey that is very bluish in some lights. The strip down the back is black, for some reason in photos it looks much more red. You can see where the buff sorta off-white starts on the head and goes along their belly.

This third pic is just for good measure as you can see two at once. I can't quiet tell what their combs are but they look like roses, slightly cushion, but their is a definite bump (I think) towards the back.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

well it's gonna be a tuff guess. Their face does look quail, their sides look millie fluer, and their back looks bb red or buff columbian.

millie to quail should give you quail split to millies

a buff to quail should be buff columbian

and wheaten to quail should be a yellowish quail and buff columbian (that would be my guess for now)

rose combs are dominate so they should all be rose combed no matter who papa was.

post some more once they start to feather up a bit and I can tell a little more, as the down is an unusual mix of colors

 

[speckledhen]

Thanks for the breakdown on the genetics, guys. I like both colors, but sure want some pretty porcelain hens in the spring. Won't get any this year unless they begin laying really soon plus I get a broody to put eggs under because I don't plan to brood anymore chicks this year.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

haha

I'm gonna have to call bull on that Cyn.

You know as good as I do if it's dead of winter and those girls start, you'll be brooding in the house if you have too...

 

[speckledhen]

Quote:
but, but, but....

 

[Backwoods Bntms]

I got three more!

There is one more egg in the hatcher but I am alittle worried about it. It was the first to pip last night and not much action since.

jj

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

congrats on the hatch JJ

Got a bator full hatching right now myself


Stick them fingers in tight Cynthia! HAHA

 

[speckledhen]

You're a terrible enabler, Aubrey, just terrible!

Here is some awesome cuteness for the day, my Penny. Isn't she precious? I just love her, but Aimee is almost worse than she is about wanting to be in my pocket now.

 

[Inkheart]

She is sooooooo cute Cyn!!!! You can see it in her eyes!