d'anver lovers,discuss the breed and post some pics!

[tinychicky]

thanks that's good to hear, bbb. so i shouldn't breed them to each other because i'd get poorly combed chicks,right? but if i find a nicely combed cock to breed to the hen, the offspring will have nice color, type AND comb? (the rooster mostly contributes to comb type and shape, correct?)

also the pullet's still pretty young. she does have an upward facing spike. i'm hoping her comb will have filled out by the time she's at POL. they're both more willing to pose today too, so i can get some pictures of them in full pose. the pullet (my sister has dubbed her Lady Saren) does seem to have very nice type when she's willing to stand as far as i can tell, but i don't have a trained eye for d'anvers yet.

yes, the cockerel's finishing off a molt, so his tail should look better in a month or two

Tinychicky

That's a good looking pair of quail. Color wise especially. Body looks good too. Only thing I see that would hurt you in shows in the combs.
The rooster has a perfect shape and all, good wedge, tapering to a point in the back, nice and even all the way, but, the major flaw they'd get you on is it's smooth, doesnt have the raised spikes, and it looks to have a dip in the middle of it. Those are two things in comb they frown on. Doesnt mean he's a bad breeder by no means, just he wouldnt place at a major show. The only other thing I see, and he may just be coming out of molt, but his tail is very thin, needs more primary tail feathers, should be a fat full fan from the 2 primary sickles all the way down.
Color wise, he looks real good though. Pretty much the same thing on the hen too, perfect color, and type, weak comb for show.
Breederwise, they should be great for you though

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

yes, with either, if you find a good combed mate you'll have better odds at get correct combs, you still will get some from these too though, especially if the pullet shapes up a bit. It's always hard to tell on them because they are so tiny to start with. Dont think one contributes more than the other on comb though, they get a copy of it from each parent so it's a 50/50 thing there. Colorwsie you do look great, so if you do find a mate with a better comb, try to keep good color in it too.
The hacckle and saddle lacing is where most lack in color, that or the are too pale in body color. If you find a good male and his hackle is all black, pass on him, he will just mess up your color, etc etc....It's hard to find a just perfect all around quail any more. Hatcheries have done so much damage to them in their mass production methods, and few people know all the spots to look at any more... or care

Good luck with them, getting spkies back should be easy


here's a comb you should be looking for in roos

 

[Backwoods Bntms]

Aubrey, have you ever crossed a bb red with a quail? the reason I am asking is because the chicken calculator says the males willbe quail and the females will be incomplete quails. So does that mean the males will have the quail chick down and the females could show some stripes like a bb red? Here is a better picture of the chick I hatched and it looks kinda quail but has some stripe on its back but none through the eyes. Just wondering if you could sex them by the chick down? Too bad I only had one egg, I will have to pay attention to this when they start laying again.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

nope, havent had a reason too yet. But yes that's what it looks like to me. And yes on certain color combos, the sexes will vary enough that you'll know what's what if you keep up with what each egg came from, mark them all, keep them in seperate incubators as they hatch, then toe mark the chicks, etc etc... welcome to what I have to do every weekend. Get's to be a lot of work when it's 100-200 every week to watch like that.

Most arent sexable, and many look very similar, so watch who comes from what eggs and keeping records of it is a must in a breeding program. Otherwise you dont know who to mate to who the following year...

But yes, I would think from the looks of that chick, it's a incomplete male quail, does defiantelt have the duckwing chick pattern to it's back...sounds logical from what you have.

 

[riane'smimi]

I am always lurking on here reading and looking at the pictures.
He is beautiful.

yes, with either, if you find a good combed mate you'll have better odds at get correct combs, you still will get some from these too though, especially if the pullet shapes up a bit. It's always hard to tell on them because they are so tiny to start with. Dont think one contributes more than the other on comb though, they get a copy of it from each parent so it's a 50/50 thing there. Colorwsie you do look great, so if you do find a mate with a better comb, try to keep good color in it too.
The hacckle and saddle lacing is where most lack in color, that or the are too pale in body color. If you find a good male and his hackle is all black, pass on him, he will just mess up your color, etc etc....It's hard to find a just perfect all around quail any more. Hatcheries have done so much damage to them in their mass production methods, and few people know all the spots to look at any more... or care

Good luck with them, getting spkies back should be easy


here's a comb you should be looking for in roos

 

[Cetawin]

This has been a good weekend. First the results from my visit to Art Cosner. Do you know how hard it is to pick 4 birds out of a hundred?




Last night I caught this out side my chicken coop.



This morning this was in the hatcher. BBred x quail. Not a very good picture, haven't figured out the macro setting on my new camera yet.



My self blue pullet that had that big egg she couldn't lay, laid a normal one.

Speckledhen--congradulations on the egg.
chicken boy sam-- nice looking hen


jj

Red...keep the pair, kill the middle and send me the chick

See all issues solved.

 

[Backwoods Bntms]

Red...keep the pair, kill the middle and send me the chick

See all issues solved.

The middle one has already been assigned to a position in the fur trade industry. The rest are not an issue.

jj

 

[Backwoods Bntms]

nope, havent had a reason too yet. But yes that's what it looks like to me. And yes on certain color combos, the sexes will vary enough that you'll know what's what if you keep up with what each egg came from, mark them all, keep them in seperate incubators as they hatch, then toe mark the chicks, etc etc... welcome to what I have to do every weekend. Get's to be a lot of work when it's 100-200 every week to watch like that.

Most arent sexable, and many look very similar, so watch who comes from what eggs and keeping records of it is a must in a breeding program. Otherwise you dont know who to mate to who the following year...

But yes, I would think from the looks of that chick, it's a incomplete male quail, does defiantelt have the duckwing chick pattern to it's back...sounds logical from what you have.

Don't know how long it will take me to get to the 100-200 aweek, but I can see where it can get complicated. As it is now I have my pens numbered and number the egg that come out of them. I have my pairings recorded referenced to the pen number on the computer and in a book. I built dividers for in my hatcher to keep the number seperated ( at least the ones you cant tell), plan on toe punching matching the pen number. It all starts next Saturday,and every saturday after). So I should find out pretty quick how hard it's going to be. Have you ever hatched some and couldn't figure out what they were?

jj

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

sounds like you are fixin to get a taste of it then. Yes I hatch stuff all the time I cant figure out...haha
Most of the time though, I have them right, with records and all. But some times they hatch when I'm gone or something and get all mixed up.
Some with all the projects I am working on are just identical in color.
Pretty much any F1 lavender project is gonna be just a black chick
Many of the mottled projects are just black chicks, plus the F1 's lack mottling so you have to watch that.
Bb reds and buff columbians are virtually the same as chicks
so on and so on
Some are obvious without watching, and the pre-exisiting colors arent much of a problem, they are what they are. It's mainly the crosses you have to watch so you can pair them up right the following year. Without toe punching, I'd just have a mess





Oh and thanks Riane'smimi

 

[lcw1995]

aubrey im sendin yur money to yu tomorrow