d'anver lovers,discuss the breed and post some pics!

[speckledhen]

That is a post for the Emergencies section, not breeds. Sorry, no idea.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Hope someone can help. My 12 week old crossbeak d'anver has a limp. Could it be injury, lack of vitamins or Mareks. Injury: I was reaching for her to file her beak and could only get a hold of her wing she may of hurt it trying to get away twisting so much. A week later she was limping. Lack of Vitamins: Being a crossbeak she seemed to be a little slower developing. She looks as big as the others and eats good so I didn't put her on any extra vitamins. Now they are on grower finisher. Funny how this started not long after that. I am giving her B complex and 3 drops of polyvisol once a day. B complex so far on it 5 days, polyvisol 3 days. I know it will take time. Mareks: got a limp but seems to have feeling in her leg. Uses it to scratch the ground while she eats. Sits alot with feet under toes curled, standing toes are not curled. Flaps her wings able to move them. No gray eyes. Does use her mouth sometimes not all the time to breath that started after eating yougart Sunday. She was covered in it. Scare to give her any more. Do crossbeaks have more sinus problems? Two months ago we clipped her beak and she swallowed some blood. She was breathing just like she does now from time to time. I bought some St. Johns wort but I have not tried it. I think it is the wrong kind. The one I got in the vitamin section. The one I saw on here is a blue tube. I also read that it could kill a chicken so I don't know what to do. I guess stick with the vitamins. MPC gave me a site Poultry Pedia. com and it highly recomends B complex and Nutri-drench. So any help on this will be greatly appreciated.

sounds like a normal cross beak to me. They have all sorts of problems seems like. Honestly you have done pretty good to get it as old as it is, they usually dont make it long do to feeding and such. Beak trimming is a big plus there. But it always seems to progressivly get worse over time. Vitamins do seem to help, I'd try that first, doubt it's Marek's, everything would be doing it if it was that, plus there'd be a few more symptoms. My bet would be vitamins, injury, or just mark it up to being a cross beak chick. Hope it gets better for you

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Do, I will take any Silver Quail chicks you hatched from my eggs that you don't want to keep. PM me when you are ready for me to come pick them up.

JJ- I hatched a chick with similar markings to yours only it had gold where yours had silver and it turned out to be a Buff Columbian XQuail cross - confirming Aubrey's suspicions about the lines on the back. It turned out to be either a Quail with little black around the neck and shoulders or a VERY mossy Buff Columbian...take your pick. I would guess your suspicions about it likely being a Silver Quail or very similar are probably right on the money. Secretly I hope it's something crazy cool though, because that would be awesome for you and for the breed.

I do have a copy of the official ABA Watermaal standard. I rewrote here on the BYC website and made a separate thread just for the Watermaals under the breed section. So far I am the only person who has posted on it:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...bantams-a-cousin-fo-danvers-duccles-pic-heavy
And after looking at it, looks like I forgot a variety. Buff Watermaals are also recognized. Brain fart. Make that six varieties then.

Aubrey, I think d'Anver varieties are more available on the east coast. You have no idea how difficult it was just to get Quail over here in western Washington back in 1998. Whew! You, good sir, have changed a good part of that availability issue. To that the breed owes you a great deal.

Thanks Kristen,
That really means a lot to me!!

And yes I have noticed over the years, they seem to be more plentiful out this way. The Ohio area seems to be the hub for them though, with ol Tom Shephard and his buddies. That's were most of my start up birds originated from. Then Linda in Maine has some of the best lavender you'll find, so I got them from her. But yep all in all, there are a good many more out this way. I sure have been pumping them out to the west coast though that's for sure. In all honesty, I bet 1/3 of the shipments either got to CA, OR, or WA state, TX would be a close runner up. But they do seem to be in high demand on the west coast for sure. If I've made even a slight difference in their availability out there, then it has all been worth it....

Good to hear what you said on the columbian thing too. I was leaning that way for sure, from what I had hatched, and shipped to folks , then seeing they ended up with an odd ball columbian some how. Figured those had to be the culprits as they were the only odd colored silvers I have seen here so far. I have so many in the brooders over the year, It's hard to keep up with what just one chick ends up being... I knew the buff columbian color, because I bred for it an entire year for the start up chicks, but they came out colored as a buff columbian chick, so there was no surprise there.


JJ

the silver duckwing ones will come out similar to that color, just with out the pale face and with a full red/brown wedge on top of the head in place of the arrow. Think I put a pic of them up back when I listed a few of the chick color pics ( have no idea what page that was on now though)

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

while we're on the subject, Here's some comparison pics of F1 to F2 buff columbian. Dont have any really clear pics any more of the F1's I dont guess, the center two are F2's, the very dark one on the right is an F1. You can see there how much color correction went on in just the 1 back breeding. The backs were very stippled on the f1's , and now with the F2's from last year it's just a trace..

Here's a better profile shot of the f2's




you can see the bb red influences are about gone at this point.

 

[Backwoods Bntms]

Took some pics today.

Here are the bb reds that I got from one of Aubreys males and those quail hens with the rosy breast.
most males come out like this. pretty red all over including the breast.


And then a couple like this'



but I got a couple pretty good ones



The pullets I think are better










Let me know if they have potential or not.

jj

 

[Backwoods Bntms]

The lower pullet is one of my f1 buff columbians


Here is one from Aubrey's eggs



Some more BBB birds crele pullet



Brown red pullet

 

[Backwoods Bntms]

Random pics

Ruffles


Brooder (I am behind on my pen building)


My hen pen




OK I am done.

 

[MsBagawkbagawk]

I live that girlie BBB

 

[2StrayRoos]

sounds like a normal cross beak to me. They have all sorts of problems seems like. Honestly you have done pretty good to get it as old as it is, they usually dont make it long do to feeding and such. Beak trimming is a big plus there. But it always seems to progressivly get worse over time. Vitamins do seem to help, I'd try that first, doubt it's Marek's, everything would be doing it if it was that, plus there'd be a few more symptoms. My bet would be vitamins, injury, or just mark it up to being a cross beak chick. Hope it gets better for you

Thanks for getting back to me. We now think it is an injury above the hock, slipped out of joint. We are going to try to pop it back in. Going to research some more. Thanks again.

 

[2StrayRoos]

That is a post for the Emergencies section, not breeds. Sorry, no idea.

I posted this here because ya'll know so much about the breed in general. Sorry won't do it again.