Daughter flogged......ROOSTER DEAD !!!!!!!!

Quote:
The bulk of my experience involves American game chickens. My family has kept them for generations (ours not birds) and until recently we had more roosters (cocks and stags) than many people have birds in total within a flock. Most of our adult males were confined individually in some sort of coop. Other males were confined with a small number of hens in larger coops or structures that looked like minature hen houses. Yet another group of males were individually walked (kept with small groups of hens with purpose breeding to produce relatively large number of offspring under free range conditions) on barnyrds all over county. Most walks were owned by folks other than ourselves. Regardless of how our game roosters were kept, they at some point had regular, sometimes daily, contact with keeper. We did not tolerate roosters that attacked people as these birds are tad bit more capable of causing damage than typical production breeds. They can easily and repeatedly fly up into face of 6'4" man if so inclined. When walked they came into contact with adults and children at those locations. Aggressive roosters were potentially bad for public relations. All said and done, with our games, attacks directed at people by roosters were very infrequent and if memory serves were directed more at brother and I for trying to catch bitties. Our game roosters were also very inclined to be model parents, much more so than most production breeds, but were not suicidal in protection of flock.


We (grandmother actually) also kept a couple production breeds for purpose of producing hatching eggs for a commercial hatchery. They were a very different story. Roosters were kept to be breeding machines. Best breeders covered (mated) many hens daily and those birds seemed to be ramped up on hormones all the time. They did not get individual attention and aggressiveness I suspect was inadvertantly selected for as it may have been strongly related to covering hens. Roosters may also have been selected for competing abilities in a breeding flock having multiple roosters. It was those roosters we had to watch out for, especially when kept individually as part of barnyard flock as we did with some. It was those roosters that seemed adept at going after those, such as my younger cousins with less chicken experience, that were scared of them..

Multiple factors involved and can involve genetics and environment that promote or inhibit rooster aggression towards people. Culling immediately for aggression is to be incouraged but examination of how we might influence aggression through husbandry also in order.
 
When we got our Brahmas hens we also got a B roo, he was 2 in command and it was okay till he got huge and grown, thats where the trouble started, he would not only attack us but he was scalping our bantams and fighting with our #1 roo. now they are suppose to be the gentle giants, but this guy was a nightmare. needless to say he made great chicken & dumplings
smile.png
. We have had many roos. and this is the first that was agressive, thank goodness no children in our home. We have 4 roos now, 2 are still young, but so far aren't showing signs of agression. You are very fortunate that you got it before your child was hurt.
 
Quote:
That's pure nonsense. How does someone's 'expectation' of aggression translate into their kid getting flogged?

I'll explain: Many times if someone believes that all roosters will become dangerous, they may begin to percieve all of the roosters actions as a sign of the "mysterious change" that they believe all roosters go through when they become mean. In these cases, a person might be afraid of the roo, and the roo notices that the person may avoid him, or avoid doing normal things around the henhouse, and the rooster starts to feel like he is "in charge" of his keeper. That is how expectation can exacerbate a problem, or develop one. Of course, there is also a genetic factor, but just as nurture and nature effects human behavior, so too it can influence the behavior of your poultry. This is not about blame, this is about helping people to understand thier role as poultrykeeper.

Following is a thread I cut from another website. This person understands roos well. They get aggressive because that's what they are supposed to do...
Also don't expect him to get along with other roosters, that is also not in the programming. Very few roosters will get along without fighting and tearing each other up, even to the point of killing each other.

This is not exactly true, it really depends on your setup, if you are selecting for males that are vary agressive, number of hens, the breeds, etc. I have multiple roos, some in free range, some in breeder pens with 2-3 other roos and 15-25 hens, and I don't have terrible fights and deaths. I keep many breeds, sizes, etc. and seldom have any roos fight serously.

Given the choice between an aggressive rooster and a very docile lap baby rooster, I'll take the aggressive one everytime to watch over my flock, because he is doing what roosters are made to do and will be the better protector for the flock.He just has to be taught that attacking humans is not acceptable

I pick the roosters that don't have human agression problems, and that the hens like - thgis is usually because he shows the hens food he finds, comes to thier rescue when they squak in distress, etc. and is usually not one of those ambush mating roos. Usually the hens prefer roos of this type and squat for him willingly. My fertility is amazing for all my project birds, too. This includes when I kept turkeys, only kept the ones that had respect for people. When I incubated those eggs it was not unusual to get about %90-100 hatch.

.
 
Last edited:
Great feedback on this subject. I have a 5mo old roo I've been holding a lot, lol! It was instinctual for me to hold him to 'resocialize' him. My husband just wants to swing him by the neck & throw him in the garbage since he pecked our 9yo daughter in the hand 2 days ago. Daughter is NOT afraid of chickens, either. She went in to feed them in the am & when he came at her she shooed him away and he bit her hand good-broke the skin. He did the same thing to me the same day--walked right up to me & pecked my foot hard, again breaking the skin.

Roo has started crowing & is full of himself-- if he crows when he sees us, I go down & hold him cuz I feel he's trying to be dominant to me. He'll be a good protector of a flock & already mates several times a day with the poor hens. He matured early, too. Personally, I think he should be culled, but I'm just not ready for it., so the farmer can make the decision (He & the #2 roo are being rehomed to a farm tomorrow). We live in town & can't have them around, regardless of how good their behavior gets (or doesn't).
 
I have 16 pullets, 3 roos, (soon to be only2) and a 5 yr old boy with Down Syndrome...all Michael wants to do is chase the chickens...he laughs and cackles till I can get him to stop, well, 2 days ago, my alpha roo, did not like this...the other 2 roos took off, the dominant one stood his ground and jumped my son...did not hurt him, but got my son's attention...I told him not to scare the chickens, that the rooster did not like it...he is getting it..he isn't chasing the chickens (as much) and that rooster is just doing his job...now if he attacks my son for no reason, that is another story...but so far we are good and my son learned an important lesson...

BTW, my son was NOT hurt...it just made him step back and understand what the roosters job was.
 
Our first rooster 3 years ago was a light Brahma we got with our first chickens from a hatchery. He was great until he was about 6 months then started becoming agressive we were able to put up with it as had no children around and live in the country..
He was excellent at protecting the flock and was HUGE. At year and half he wandered down to the country road and went after a neighbor walking on the road. Thank heavens she also had chickens and was not afraid of him and knew him..
At that point we knew we could no longer keep him if we were ever to let everyone be pasture free for 3 or 4 hrs a day.
He came at us when we came out of house and we like everyone else seems to do was boot him good. We also tried holding until submissive would be great for a day then bam right back to same thing.. I did not want to re home because did not want someone else to have same problem.. He (The Fonz) became freezer meat. He dressed out at 7lbs.
He did get his revenge though was the toughtest chicken we ever ate LOL.. I did not have any chicks with him as did not want his temperment passed on.

We have a Welsummer rooster that we got from a friend as a chick and we tried something different that I had read
and that was:
When you go out take a treat and if a rooster sees you as a feed source and not as a competitor or a threat to his flock. Competitors or preditors do not bring food.
He will come running when I call chick chick LOL and now at 2 years old will stand back and let his girls 18 of them eat first but
then when I hold it out to him he will still eat out of my hand. Maybe with that many girls he is just to busy to worry about us LOl

This is first year I have tried having our own had 4 great BO brooders and so got Americana, Bo, Dark Brahma, and Barred Rock chick
mix gave 12 away to friends with their Aunt Bea's and the oldest are now 12 weeks and they love them.
I now have for myself 12 chicks youngest 3 weeks today and the oldest 8 weeks today. Even the younger ones are comming up to eat out of hand when their Aunt Bea. Am excited to see how they all turn out.

The temperments are absolutely wonderful so far will see by fall and spring but I also wonder if along with the hatcheries just doing anything and everything to get more chicks to sell and not caring what they produce.. Along with us not taking the time to try to
reasure our roosters humans are not a threat and see us as a good thing.

When my grand kids are here I do not let them just go wandering when I know they are comming I keep the chickens in although
they do go with me to feed treats and so far so good GP (Gregory Peck) is just great. Has shown absolutely no aggression at all .
 
Last edited:
My daughter (11) has been chased by our roos (barred rock, and americuna). I tell her to stand her ground and us a small stick or "switch" and chase them back, even hit them with it if she can. I try to explain to her that he thinks she is one of his hens and she knows what he does to them!!
D.gif
I think its all about the pecking order and you have to show the roo that you are higher up the ladder than they are. If that doesnt work then its into the stew pot.
ep.gif
 

New posts New threads Active threads

Back
Top Bottom