day 17, horrific dog attack. should I bathe her?

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by lalaland, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. LeafBlade12345

    LeafBlade12345 Chillin' With My Peeps

    I see no problem with honey in human wounds, but I feel it is unsafe in birds. But that's just my experience. It is totally your choice with your birds. Key word, your.
     
  2. lalaland

    lalaland Overrun With Chickens

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    um, I think godofpecking was referring to my statement about my mom....

    You know, I've heard that honey producers are allowed to add stuff to honey - cant remember whether it was sugar water or corn syrup- and that very little of the "honey" on the market, and certainly none of the major brands in the grocery store, is viable honey - have been diluted with additives to stretch the honey, and have been processed to the extent that there is not even any pollen residue in the stuff.

    So...your local beekeeper honey is best for everything - eating, using on wounds, etc.

    Godofpecking, I am totally unfamiliar with the idea of applying the honey, waiting til it stings and then rinsing it off. Have always used it as a salve almost But then that has been on cuts and abrasions, and not on an infection because I haven't had one develop.

    So, right now I am leaving her wounds be. Got a delivery of live mealworms as that is the one thing she will reliably eat. Also eats kale and fruit.

    so strange that a badly injured hen (this is normal from what I have been able to research here on byc about seriously injured hens) will reject egg, yogurt, cheese, cat food, feed, oatmeal, raw meat, etc and only eat a fruit, a green, and mealworms.

    Leaf, I have bobwhites too!
     
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  3. sbhkma

    sbhkma Chillin' With My Peeps

    Blu-kote is not for deep puncture wounds. It says so right on the can. Later on as the wounds heal, it's great for keeping other chickens from pecking the wound, as it "hides" it with blue. Neosporin or other triple antibiotic is a good way to go, but in this case it sounds like it could cause more problems than it fixes unless the hen can be treated at night during 'comatose sleepytime'.
     
  4. oldhenlikesdogs

    oldhenlikesdogs Lots of Chickens Premium Member

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    I wanted to just comment on what your chicken will eat, after my surgeries I would crave greens, especially spinach, I'm assuming I was after the iron as I don't eat meat.
     
  5. GodofPecking

    GodofPecking Chillin' With My Peeps

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    My reference to honey reflects the research I've done and my own personal successes with healing. I also have access to plenty of fresh honey from the hive. Yes, store bought honey is like everything store bought, quite often fake and substandard. Not always though. You can do a search for mislabeled honey and find out what is in it. Beekeepers and honey sellers aren't allowed to put things into the honey as far as I have ever heard. Honeycomb, in wax, is often sold and sold for a premium because it proves that the honey came from a beekeeper (and therefor bees). Making your own honey is far far too easy and I recommend it. A beehive is an awesome thing to have.

    The waiting until it stings is from personal experience, occasionally it can sting a tiny tiny bit, so rather than saying leave it on for 5 minutes and then someone makes their squirming kid sit still while it stings, I say leave it on for 5 mins or until it stings. The wound ends up BRILLIANTLY CLEAN like you have been taking a shower for an hour, but the skin around it doesn't look like a prune. It's awesome this way, get the equal of an hour in a bathtub in just 5 mins and disinfect at the same time. Plus, never deal with the faulty products on the market which cannot cope with antibiotic resistant strains or burn a hole in your arm or give you cancer themselves. Honey is a good food, so it's not going to hurt you.The fact that it is a better medicine than any commercial disinfectant is a bonus.

    There is also that movie, where the girl who is feeling quite poorly is invited to have something to eat by her elderly neighbor, who is a Chinese cook, and she says "you could revive the appetite of a corpse". There is not feeling like eating, and then there is food which changes your mind. I imagine chooks are the same.
     
  6. Sutremaine

    Sutremaine Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You can make your own Nu-Stock style ointment from powdered sulphur, fat, and pine tar.

    Getting back on topic, how feasible would it be to give the chicken a dust bath to use as she desires? You can sterilise the material in the oven or whatever, if you're concerned about what might be lurking in there.
     
  7. momchick4

    momchick4 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I am curious about the dust bath too. I have a pullet that survived a fox attacked several nights ago. She seems to be doing well but I in the isolation cage, but should I allow her in the dirt with open wounds?
     
  8. oldhenlikesdogs

    oldhenlikesdogs Lots of Chickens Premium Member

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    I have always allowed a chicken to make up it's own mind on such things, if they feel well enough they will try to dust bathe, I have been known to follow my wounded chicken around outside for a bit for some exercise and sunshine, if they want to dust bath I let them.
     
  9. GodofPecking

    GodofPecking Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I surely believe so, they are smarter about these things than people are, and they know their own bodies better than we do. It is how they keep clean, and germs in the soil seem to benefit them greatly. There is not much chooks eat which is not covered in dirt.

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  10. emmaie892000

    emmaie892000 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    When my pullet was attacked by a dog, I kept her in the garage with supplementary heat. She had a large, somewhat deep, wound on her thigh with skin completely gone. We used a rinse medicine. I wasn't allowing her to dust bathe, which evidently was driving her crazy.
    One day as I carried her to the house to bathe her she jumped out of my arms and ran to the dust bathing hole under the shed, beat up the hen below her in the pecking order, and dust bathed to her heart's content.
    I was lucky enough that she didn't get infected. In fact, it kind of helped it scab over.
    I don't know if it would be the same with your hen. Just thought I'd share my story.
     

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