day 7 dark mass - bacteria? Updated with more pics

[crunchynut]

I have Ameraucana, BCM and Olive Eggers in the incubator. I can't see into the BCM or Olive ones at all with my LED flashlight, so I only candled the Ameraucana. A couple of them have large dark masses in them, but also have veining too (can't see veining in this photo, saw it from another angle) - here's a photo (not great, I lightened it up a bit in photoshop to show the area better). It is kind of like a dark cave shape - with a U shaped area in front that is light and then dark all across the back of the egg. Does that make any sense?

Is this bacteria? Something else? I didn't see any blood rings

Do I hold off another few days and candle again to make a decision?

 

[ranchhand]

I'd wait several more days, but no, it doesn't look right. I have had some awful looking eggs hatch though. Mark it ?? and give it a few more days, watching and sniffing it carefully along the way.

 

[Burning Beard]

Not to hijack crunchy's thread but ranch you mentioned "sniffing as you go". Being as green as I am with incubating eggs, can you actual smell a bad egg or were you making a funny?

 

[slackwater]

You can actually smell a bad egg.

 

[f8thnjc]

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Good advice! Also, I did have one (brown) egg that did look like that until day 8 or 9. No real definition til then. Keep an eye on it.

 

[aveca]

Boy , I dont know...that looks litle like veining in there. can you get a side shot and top shot off to the side? I would giver it a few more. might have developed quicker than others.

 

[crunchynut]

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Here is the veining, seen when I candled from the top (large end).

Here is the back 'side' of the egg (opposite to the very first photo I posted)

I don't notice any smell from it, so I guess I'll leave it in still just in case it is good. But I'm still really curious about this big mass - could it really be a quickly developed chick?

 

[crunchynut]

It looks quite different from the eggs that are obviously alive - like this other one http://tinypic.com/r/25k0bkk/7

 

[Northwood Silkies]

It looks like it's still alive but has a ruptured air cell. I've had those before and the chick fully developed but never hatched and quit sometime towards the end.

 

[Twoheadedrooster]

I've got 4 like that in the bator right now. I can see movement in two of them, but not the other two. They've been that way for 4 ot 5 days now. Maybe I should toss the 2?