Dead chick with scabby sore?

[Wyorp Rock]

O.K. Help me out here, just to make sure what I'm seeing.

I have a Black Arrow pointing to the Vent, correct?

The RED circle is poop coming out of that or did the poop just run down to there?

IF the poop is coming out of that, which I assume is the navel, then this little one will likely not make it. Have you contacted the breeder and showed this photo to them?

 

[KLIL]

O.K. Help me out here, just to make sure what I'm seeing.

I have a Black Arrow pointing to the Vent, correct?

The RED circle is poop coming out of that or did the poop just run down to there?

IF the poop is coming out of that, which I assume is the navel, then this little one will likely not make it. Have you contacted the breeder and showed this photo to them?




View attachment 1502404

Ohhh. Ok. It looks like it is coming out from there but the chick is heaps better today moving around, eating and drinking and making lil normal chirps.
Im at work now. Ill have to check when im home.
What I seen last night was he keeps sitting when he needs to go to the toilet?
If it is coming from the navel like we think. Would it be dead by now?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Ohhh. Ok. It looks like it is coming out from there but the chick is heaps better today moving around, eating and drinking and making lil normal chirps.
Im at work now. Ill have to check when im home.
What I seen last night was he keeps sitting when he needs to go to the toilet?
If it is coming from the navel like we think. Would it be dead by now?

Let's us know what you find out.
No, it's possible if the waste is coming out of the navel it would not be dead by now. If that were to close and the chick is unable to eliminate waste, then it would die shortly. If the waste is coming from the navel, this chick has a developmental problem and sadly, I would cull it.

 

[KLIL]

Let's us know what you find out.
No, it's possible if the waste is coming out of the navel it would not be dead by now. If that were to close and the chick is unable to eliminate waste, then it would die shortly. If the waste is coming from the navel, this chick has a developmental problem and sadly, I would cull it.

I got home and the chick was moving around and chirping but.... the waste was coming from its navel. And its belly was really big and its crop on its neck was massive. Unfortunately I had to make the decision to cull it. Im extremely upset and can't bare the thought. I was crying uncontrollably at the thought. Thank you for all your help I really appreciate it.

 

[KikiLeigh02]

I'm so sorry. How are your other two doing?

I got home and the chick was moving around and chirping but.... the waste was coming from its navel. And its belly was really big and its crop on its neck was massive. Unfortunately I had to make the decision to cull it. Im extremely upset and can't bare the thought. I was crying uncontrollably at the thought. Thank you for all your help I really appreciate it.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I got home and the chick was moving around and chirping but.... the waste was coming from its navel. And its belly was really big and its crop on its neck was massive. Unfortunately I had to make the decision to cull it. Im extremely upset and can't bare the thought. I was crying uncontrollably at the thought. Thank you for all your help I really appreciate it.

I'm very sorry

I know it's hard to make that decision, but you did the right thing.

 

[KLIL]

Thank you both.

The other 2 seem fine. I cried and cried that was really hard. Then I had a shower and my partner took me to bed and cuddled me all night.
Thank you all for your amazing help.

 

[chickendreams24]

O.K. Help me out here, just to make sure what I'm seeing.

I have a Black Arrow pointing to the Vent, correct?

The RED circle is poop coming out of that or did the poop just run down to there?

IF the poop is coming out of that, which I assume is the navel, then this little one will likely not make it. Have you contacted the breeder and showed this photo to them?




View attachment 1502404

I'm so sorry you culled I think the infection would probably have continued and may have taken the life of the chick.

However in the above photo the arrow does not point to the vent but to the base of the tail. The vent is in the middle of the poop and is visible near the top as a pink thing on the edge of the poo.

Although clearly raw from the poop it looked like a normal vent. However the discoloration in the abdomen worried me quite a bit.

Next time I would suggest you give the chick a chance as long as it is moving around and eating and drinking normally.

For past butt we first clean the chick up under gently running warm water softening the poop carefully. Also be careful to only get as little as possible wet. We then dry the chick with a paper towel and put it back in the brooder to warm up. Giving an electrolyte and probiotic solution in the waterer helps a lot. If the pasty but persists we usually use hemherroid ointment or oil etc on the vent and backside to help keep the poo from sticking. Of course proper temperatures and especially keeping them from draft is important as pasty butt can be caused by cold or heat stress.

Pasty butt is not contagious and the chicks were too young to have contracted and been over run with coccidiosis.

Also some chicks especially young chicks or those with pasty butt may appear to sit down when they defecate. In my experience this can be caused by a number of things and always resolves itself. If a chick's butt gets pasted over it can't poop normally and it's body may draw too much fluid out of the feces causing constipation (this constipation in turn causes excessive straining which can make a chick lose it's balance, sit down or even prolapse it's vent) as long as the chick gets help with the pasty butt and is kept clean it can usually be saved and become a normal chick. Although it may be slightly behind siblings that didn't have that problem. Also of course some chicks don't survive pasty butt whether they get so backed up they don't eat or they get so constipated that they get impacted and can't pass the poo.

Chicks that have a very large yolk sac or a swollen abdomen may also have balance issues and appear to sit down when they poop. Again this usually resolves unless the abdominal swelling is infection.

 

[KLIL]

I'm so sorry you culled I think the infection would probably have continued and may have taken the life of the chick.

However in the above photo the arrow does not point to the vent but to the base of the tail. The vent is in the middle of the poop and is visible near the top as a pink thing on the edge of the poo.

Although clearly raw from the poop it looked like a normal vent. However the discoloration in the abdomen worried me quite a bit.

Next time I would suggest you give the chick a chance as long as it is moving around and eating and drinking normally.

For past butt we first clean the chick up under gently running warm water softening the poop carefully. Also be careful to only get as little as possible wet. We then dry the chick with a paper towel and put it back in the brooder to warm up. Giving an electrolyte and probiotic solution in the waterer helps a lot. If the pasty but persists we usually use hemherroid ointment or oil etc on the vent and backside to help keep the poo from sticking. Of course proper temperatures and especially keeping them from draft is important as pasty butt can be caused by cold or heat stress.

Pasty butt is not contagious and the chicks were too young to have contracted and been over run with coccidiosis.

Also some chicks especially young chicks or those with pasty butt may appear to sit down when they defecate. In my experience this can be caused by a number of things and always resolves itself. If a chick's butt gets pasted over it can't poop normally and it's body may draw too much fluid out of the feces causing constipation (this constipation in turn causes excessive straining which can make a chick lose it's balance, sit down or even prolapse it's vent) as long as the chick gets help with the pasty butt and is kept clean it can usually be saved and become a normal chick. Although it may be slightly behind siblings that didn't have that problem. Also of course some chicks don't survive pasty butt whether they get so backed up they don't eat or they get so constipated that they get impacted and can't pass the poo.

Chicks that have a very large yolk sac or a swollen abdomen may also have balance issues and appear to sit down when they poop. Again this usually resolves unless the abdominal swelling is infection.

It seemed to be in pain to me. And wasn't going to the toliet from its butt but its navel to me thats an issue. Also, it was so swollen and big. It wasn't going to the toilet properly I don't think.

I just felt I shouldn't just let it suffer any longer.

 

[PouleChick]

It seemed to be in pain to me. And wasn't going to the toliet from its butt but its navel to me thats an issue. Also, it was so swollen and big. It wasn't going to the toilet properly I don't think.

I just felt I shouldn't just let it suffer any longer.

Hard decision but sounds like you did the right thing - something in the plumbing wasn't right clearly!