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I've found amazing Buckeyes, Speckled Sussex, Javas, Delawares, multiple varieties of turkeys, etc, from private breeders for little more than you'd pay from a hatchery. It took a long time to find the right breeders, and a few false starts, but they're out there. Some only sell started trios, but lots of them sell hatching eggs or day old chicks. I recently ordered 20 Speckled Sussex chicks from an excellent breeder. They were $7 each, only $15 for shipping, and he sent 24 in case a few didn't make it during shipping. They all lived and are incredibly vigorous. They were toe punched to identify the 4 different breeding pens they were hatched from, so I have the opportunity to continue line breeding, or to mix the established lines to create a new line if desired. At 16 weeks the pullets are already 5 pounds and the cockerels are over 6 pounds, and not nearly filled out yet. They aren't all breeding quality, but even the best breeders don't produce 100% breeding quality offspring. Yes, these are straight run chicks (as hatched, instead of ordering specifically males or females), and I ended up with 8 pullets and 16 cockerels, but that's actually perfect. I'll keep the 8 pullets, and still have a large number of cockerels to choose my 2-4 roosters from, leaving 12-14 delicious HUGE cockerels for the freezer. That's a whole lot better than the SS I ordered from a hatchery years ago. The 5 SS chicks (along with several other breeds, for a total of 25 for shipping) that I ordered didn't do well. Of the 5 SS chicks, 2 died in shipping. The 3 that lived were 2 cockerels and one pullet. The one pullet only reached 4.5 pounds, and laid a huge number of large eggs, as productive as a Leghorn. Unfortunately, that level of production couldn't be sustained by this breed, and she died when she was 11 months old from a liver rupture, common in hens that are undersized and lay excessive numbers of eggs. One of the cockerels was so poor quality that he had the body of a gamecock, and was so mean that he couldn't be kept with his flockmates after 3 months of age because he was causing serious injuries to innocent birds. He was slaughtered as soon as he was 4 pounds, which took 7 months! The last cockerel was a very beautiful and sweet boy, until he reached sexual maturity and started attacking everything -- hens, turkeys, people, dogs, cats, fence posts, etc. That's not that uncommon, but is still a fault in a rooster of a calm breed, IMO. The last straw was when he rushed a blind pet turkey hen while she was eating and flogged her in the face!! She was terrified to eat for the next three days. After that, he went into an isolation pen and was put on the finishing diet. I'm not saying that none of the breeder's cockerels will become unacceptably mean -- chances are a few of them will. But at least these most of these birds will have appropriate temperaments, and so far look and grow like a Speckled Sussex.