DEBATE -- Pyreneese vs. Donkey -- Which is Better at Predator Control?

Discussion in 'Predators and Pests' started by Preservation Acres, May 28, 2010.

  1. Preservation Acres

    Preservation Acres Songster

    Dec 31, 2008
    Murfreesboro, TN
    Here's my situation...

    We have 25 acres, 15 is in pasture. We haven't "set up home" there yet, but we will be living on site with goats, sheep, and of course chickens and other poultry.

    In Middle Tennessee, we have coyotes (not as many as Texas, but they're here), annoying stray dogs, and all of the same smaller pests you'll find across the US like raccoons, etc.

    What's the better animal for our situation?

  2. Miss Red

    Miss Red Songster

    Apr 26, 2010
    Trinity, Texas
    If you get a donkey, and get a male, do NOT get one that's in tact unless you want it to "breed the neighborhood". We sold our jack last year after he covered our Henny because he kept jumping the fence, going to chase bulls, and things like that.

    One of my neighbors lost her 15,000 dollar bull to an in-tact jack because the bull got between him and the other donkey, so he killed it.

    Other than those precautions, I say donkey. They don't eat much, don't generally want to be bothered, and their bray alone has scared off coyotes here. Never seen one go after a coon, though.

    A pyr is a great dog only if you don't make it a pet. If you me it a pet it will be so busy with you it won't do its job. Learned that the hard way.
  3. Rafter 7 Paint Horses

    Rafter 7 Paint Horses Songster

    Jan 13, 2007
    East Texas
    I would say the Pyrenees.
    Here is some of my experience with both.

    I have them and they have stopped the coyote and stray dog problem here. You will have to have good fences, which you will need to keep goats in anyway. Pyrenees dogs tend to want to patrol and protect as far as they can see, so they do have a tendency to want to roam.
    They will also chase predators as far as they need, in order to catch them.

    They will kill coons, skunks, possums, etc...which is a great plus!! You should get 2, they take turns being on watch so your animals and property is guarded 24/7. One dog will not live as long or be as healthy, from being on guard too much and not getting the rest it needs. With 2, they seem to live much longer, and you will really notice how they work as a team. Ours have an unheard signal to the others when there is something that needs their attention. One can be seemingly sound asleep, and the next instant be on its feet and running. I will look when that one jumps up, and see the one that was on guard running way out in the pasture. In no time, they are working the fence line from opposite directions.

    If you choose to use a donkey, you will need get a female or a gelding (neutered male). It will also need to be one that hates dogs. Your pet dogs included.

    We have only had 2 donkeys out of many, that would chase dogs or coyotes. Most would only chase them if they came too close to the donkey itself. Our crafty coyotes would just walk along the fence line, so they could either dart under it or jump over when the donkeys got too close to them. They would then proceed to other areas that the donkey didn't have access to, and cause havoc.

    Whichever you choose, I hope you find the right one the first time.

  4. Preservation Acres

    Preservation Acres Songster

    Dec 31, 2008
    Murfreesboro, TN
    Thanks! That's a great help!

    Anyone else?
  5. LeBlackbird

    LeBlackbird Songster

    Aug 17, 2009
    SE Pennsylvania
    Lamas are awesome protecters [​IMG] They aren't aggresive to Visitors like the Pyrs, and do a better job than Donkeys [​IMG] I'd get one
  6. Supermommy486

    Supermommy486 Songster

    Apr 8, 2010
    South Central Texas
    I'd have to say Pyr. We have one, (Plan on getting one more) and not only is she a great protector, but she is a great Family dog and companion!
    Last edited: May 28, 2010
  7. Morgan7782

    Morgan7782 Dense Egg Goo

    Mar 22, 2010
    Sacramento CA
    Llama's! All the way.. My friend had 200+ acres they ran horses on, and they had 3 llama's that would kick the tail off any cougar within sniffing distance. can't go wrong with a llama. just don't get spat on lol!

  8. redhen

    redhen Kiss My Grits... Premium Member

    May 19, 2008
    Western MA
    I say donkey
    they are tough! A pack of coys can kill a pyr.... i think they'd have a LOT harder time bringing down a big male donkey...
  9. tplummer

    tplummer Songster

    Jun 16, 2009
    Salisbury, NC
    I don't know about the dog, but the donkey would be great. I have a miniature in my horse pasture. My dogs got in one time following me. He was, for sure, going to remove them at all cost. I got them out before he had that chance.
  10. Nostalchic

    Nostalchic Songster

    A good fence is your best animal! I have a Pyranees/shepherd cross, and he's a good protector to a point. I have found that my mini horse is more aggressive and alert to approaching predators than any of my dogs are. Granted, the dogs sleep in the house - they aren't raised with the flock, etc. But a good fence: we have sturdy woven wire with electric wire backing it up, seems to have worked well for us, and our chickens are shut in at night, of course. Our chickens free range on 5 acres, coyotes are frequently seen, but don't come onto the property. Foxes, likewise. Obviously this wouldn't be hawk protection, but with our relatively large breeds, hawks haven't been a problem at all.
    Last edited: May 28, 2010

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