Depressed chicken?

dpetzen

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Jul 26, 2018
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My Red Shaver Boudicea (Boudie for short) has become a recluse and bordering on lethargic over the last three weeks.

I thought she was seriously sick at first, so she had to join my other chook, Gentle Giant, when I took Gentle for a vet follow-up.

The vet gave her a clean bill of health after a thorough examination, but did prescribe antibiotics as her crop was a tiny bit distended.

The vet suggested she may be broody, but I've since then read up on how that manifests itself and that is definitely not the case.

I could write an essay on how she used to be and how she is now, but I'll try to keep is short.

She never ran around madly, but was as energetic as any other chook. She got her name from being a relentless fighter when she arrived. She eventually settled down and ended up in position 3 of 9 in the flock. She would always come up to me and play with my fingers, pull my shirt and generally being very friendly.

She is now spending most of her time just standing or sitting looking at nothing. She does sleep a bit, but not like a properly sick chook would (I unfortunately have a lot of experience of that as of late, so I would know). She goes to bed first and she had gone to bed 2 hours before bedtime when I got home today.

She eats and drinks, but without the usual frenzy. She can barely be bothered to rip grass off when they are grazing and won't fight over food anymore.

She does have the odd moment now and then, like when she all by a sudden got excited and flew down the stairs and ran over to the others, so she doesn't seem to be in pain or being sick. She certainly has energy when I give her the antibiotics twice a day (she legs it as soon as she sees the blue towel I use to catch her with).

If she would have been a person, then I'd say she was depressed and/or sick off all the other chooks.

I've searched the forums and found quite a few posts about depressed chickens. In most cases it's sickness, but I wouldn't assume that is the case just yet, as she got an all-clear from the vet and is on antibiotics.

The other reason is loss. I just lost a chook, but they weren't that close. Gentle Giant is her best friend and Gentle was just saved by the vet, so I don't think this is the problem either.

She's not dropped down in the pecking order or been denied any of her favourite foods.

Some of them have mites and they need to be de-wormed (medication for both will arrive any day now), which has been suggested as possible contributing factors. All the other chooks are running around like mad and are as happy as any chook could ever be, though.

Has anyone experienced this? Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks in advance,
Dan (and Boudie)
 
One of my hens went like that, I thought she was sick, not sure if it was a coincidence or not but I had on order some chicken vitamins (powder and fluid) after that she seemed to pick up, now she is a lively as ever.
 
One of my hens went like that, I thought she was sick, not sure if it was a coincidence or not but I had on order some chicken vitamins (powder and fluid) after that she seemed to pick up, now she is a lively as ever.
Chicken Vitamins?

I did a search and found both drops and powder that seems very close to what you describe. It's a shame I just placed my order. I could have added that to my order as well.

I may place a second order.

Thanks for the tip!
 
as she got an all-clear from the vet and is on antibiotics.
Curious, what kind of testing the vet did before administering AB's?
The meds could be causing 'side effects' and/or not be affecting what ever ails her.


When a bird is acting 'off' this is what I suggest, works well for me.
I'd isolate bird in a wire cage within the coop for a day or two....so you can closely monitor their intake of food and water, crop function(checking at night and in morning before providing more feed), and their poops. Feel their abdomen, from below vent to between legs, for squishy or hard swelling.

Best to put crate right in coop or run so bird is still 'with' the flock.
I like to use a fold-able wire dog crate (24"L x 18"W x 21"H) with smaller mesh(1x2) on bottom of crate under tray.
Then you can put tray underneath crate to better observe droppings without it being stepped in. If smaller mesh is carefully installed, tray can still be used inside crate.
 
Curious, what kind of testing the vet did before administering AB's?
The meds could be causing 'side effects' and/or not be affecting what ever ails her.


When a bird is acting 'off' this is what I suggest, works well for me.
I'd isolate bird in a wire cage within the coop for a day or two....so you can closely monitor their intake of food and water, crop function(checking at night and in morning before providing more feed), and their poops. Feel their abdomen, from below vent to between legs, for squishy or hard swelling.

Best to put crate right in coop or run so bird is still 'with' the flock.
I like to use a fold-able wire dog crate (24"L x 18"W x 21"H) with smaller mesh(1x2) on bottom of crate under tray.
Then you can put tray underneath crate to better observe droppings without it being stepped in. If smaller mesh is carefully installed, tray can still be used inside crate.

The vet weighed her, took her pulse and temperature and checked her crop abdomen and quite a few other places. She's specialised in birds, so she's really good. She has already save the life of one of my chooks.

Thanks for your detailed recommendations and suggestions. I can fully relate to the method and approach.

My main concern is that even though my chooks may have recovered, they still panic when confined, most likely as an effect of the trauma they suffered in the factory, so I want to hold off any confines until a later stage.

I did observe her droppings the other day and will make some comparisons.

She's eating, drinking and moves around, even though she needs a bit of prompting, so I'll probably let the AB run its cause and start the de-worming and anti-mite treatment. If that doesn't help, then I'll probably take her back to the vet.

Thanks and regards,
Dan
 
I've taken a few pictures to give you an idea of what she behaves like.

This is a typical situation from the other day where she just sits without wanting to interact:
depressed-small.jpg


I also took some pictures of Boudie when I got home from work today.

She was in the coop when I went out to see them:
looks-like-brooding-small.jpg


I got her out of the coops and she jumped down to eat and drink. They have one of their grassy areas behind their main area that I opened up and Boudie joined them and was almost herself again, albeit less energetic and interactive:
out-and-about-small.jpg


I really hope it's temporary and that she snaps back to her old self again.
 
The vet weighed her, took her pulse and temperature and checked her crop abdomen and quite a few other places. She's specialised in birds, so she's really good. She has already save the life of one of my chooks.
But no swabs before AB or fecal float to test for worms?

anti-mite treatment
Have you seen any mites, lice? I assume the vet looked at her skin for them.

This is a typical situation from the other day where she just sits without wanting to interact
Yeah, she definitely looks like she's not feeling well.
 
Your from nz so could it be heat? You are gaining heat right now? In the states we are cooling off so that may be something wevarent thinking of.... she could be heat affected I like electrolyte/vitamin powder to give in water, administering some directly to her, she isn't feeling well but she could be taking a break too and when they are on that break they don't show much interest in food, don't have that urge and drive to eat as layers do.
 
But no swabs before AB or fecal float to test for worms?
No, prescribing AB was a precaution as the only potential issue she found was that Boudie's crop was a bit distended. I'm not sure why the reasoning behind prescribing AB seems important.

Have you seen any mites, lice? I assume the vet looked at her skin for them.
Yes, I forgot to mentioned that she has mites. I just got the anti-mite spray and will start treatment this weekend.

Yeah, she definitely looks like she's not feeling well.
Well, stress levels are back to maximum again, then. I thought she wasn't doing too bad physically.

I'll let the AB run it's course and if I don't see any improvements, then I'll have to book her in with the vet next week.
 

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