destruction and disposal orders HELP

[MrsBachbach]

Well how far down do you want to go? Short term temperature variations (warming and cooling from sun etc) are only effective to a depth of about 1 foot 6 inches. Considering that most soil temps across the US, which are measured at a depth of 6 inches (far deeper than a chicken will dig) are now over 60 degrees,, that is plenty warm enough to kill off the H5N1 virus at 2 weeks or less. Much of the soil temps are well into the 70s and even 80s now making that time drop down to days and even hours in some areas.
http://www.greencastonline.com/tools/SoilTempMaps.aspx
After that, because of the high thermal inertia of the soil, the temperature fluctuations at the surface of the ground are diminished as the depth of the ground increases. At a depth of 9 feet soil temp will slowly fluctuate between 60-77 degrees and if you go as far as 82 feet the soil temperature remains constant at a balmy 72 degrees. There is a formula that explains this called the Kasuda formula ,, and if you really need me to I can dig you up an Abstract on that as well.

Edited for typo,, was supposed to be H5N1 but I was tired and hit H1N1 which is swine flu,, sorry

Isn't the virus the states are currently dealing with H5N2 and H5N8 or 9? I can't remember. So, would it hold true for those also?

 

[MysteriaSdrassa]

The US was hit by 3 strains, H5N1, H5N2 and H5N8 this time arround,, maybe why it was wider spread than in past outbreaks.

I used H5N1 as the base because it sits at the top of the chain
However according to all the Abstracts I could find, All H5s,, N1 thru N9 while varying in incubation period,, 21 days being the longest,, where all susceptable to the same heat variances,,, in fact that same heat variance holds true for almost all viruses with minor deviances in temperature

 

[Sylvester017]

I currently have a white front amazon. Recent vet trip and bird was given baytril. Vet said tests came back with some very nasty bacteria bird was carrying. She didn't expound on that. So...maybe right there. She loves eating what we eat and sunflower seeds and nuts. Which is what led to the vet trip. Bad diet. The seeds that is.
All that said, I really need to find her another home. My husband is allergic to almost everything anymore, birds being one of them. At least the chickens are outside and he wears a mask when helping me with anything.

Oh, I'm so sorry for both your Amazon and your DH!

What we did for the new owner of our Blue-fronted Amazon - made a list of his daily routine with us, what he eats, what his favourite treats are, what time of day he does certain things, his vocabulary, where he sleeps, sent his stand and cage and toys to his new home with him. Parrots get desperately depressed if their humans and routine are changed. We only had our boy for 10 months - he was a youngster when we bought him and my 10-year-old was with him every possible waking moment so that in that short 10 months he was extremely tame; she held him, walked with him on her shoulder, had him playing with the Cockatiel and the American Budgie, took him into the shower with her, towel-dried him, fed him his regular food and treats, and taught him some tricks and several sentences. We never taught him this but he picked it up on his own - when he heard my son's alarm clock in the morning I would say, "Eric! Time to get up!" After a week the Amazon heard the alarm go off and before I could say "Eric!" the Amazon in the next bedroom said "Eric! Time to get up!"

The new owner had lost her African Grey and was ecstatic to find a younger parrot with the tameness and vocabulary my daughter taught our Amazon. My daughter never played with dolls and her room was full of carefully loved stuffed animals. To this day animals have always been her "children" as she made a conscious choice not to have her own human children. The transition from our home to the Amazon's new home went smoothly according to the new owner who incorporated all the old vocabulary and continued teaching him new words. She made sure to keep his name that was familiar to him - "Paco."

There was a bird flu back in the early 80's that was transmitted to my son's school friend which he caught from their South American parrots (don't recall what colors). The boy was deteriorating for several days until the doctor happened to ask the parents if he had been around any birds and once it was determined about the parrots they were able to follow a plan of treatment that saved the boy. Wish I had paid more attention then as to what bird flu it was and what the treatment was for it - all I remember is that it panicked a lot of people because it transmitted to humans.

 

[seminolewind]

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Hey Sylvester, I do, however share wine with my JG Mariska-.

 

[johnskoi]

Hey Sylvester, I do, however share wine with my JG Mariska-.

lmao!! gave my peas some straight cranberry juice yesterday which they really seemed to like ... now i may see how they like buds or margaritas tomorrow!... hey, it may make them easier to handle when i go for NPIP!! (just hope i don't get any NASTY drunks!!)... they get pasta somewhat regularly --- maybe i'll make them a POTENT marinara!! --- then again, i don't need crippled peas..... do you notice any difference in Mariska's behavior?

 

[MrsBachbach]

Hey Sylvester, I do, however share wine with my JG Mariska-.

Well I'd love to see video of the bird after swilling that!

 

[seminolewind]

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Yes. If I come outside with a glass, and sit down, she won't leave me alone! I don't know how hard it is to get a chicken drunk.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

It's the 4th!!!! Happy independence day!!!!!

I bet you are feeling pretty good today @johnskoi !!

 

[WVduckchick]

Yes.  If I come outside with a glass, and sit down, she won't leave me alone!  I don't know how hard it is to get a chicken drunk. 

My chickens haven't tried that yet, but my pug whines for the final drink from a beer can/bottle! He will watch patiently the entire time, till he can tell its almost gone. Then he thinks the rest is his!! I'm sure he'd fight the chickens over it! Lol

Happy independence day John!!

 

[Blooie]

I've got chislic 'n' beer, a comfy lawn chair, and just waiting for the word to get this party started!!