destruction and disposal orders HELP

[drumstick diva]

Blooie, wish you were my neighbor - I would be smiling every day.

 

[Blooie]

Spewed? Heck, I exploded!!

Edited to add: Plenty of room here in big, wonderful Wyoming, Diva!

 

[Diannastarr]

Exactly ! "This" strain of AI has never been in the USA before.
Ever.

 

[johnskoi]

I don't hatch/raise chicks of any breed but from what I've been researching is it ok to wash eggs before incubating? I thought the bloom on the shell was to protect it and shouldn't be washed off?

...i honestly don't remember if i washed the eggs in question or not .... if i'd get an order in that was somewhat dirty, i'd almost always wash them ... when i say wash, i'd leave the faucet running (not dribbling, not blasting, but steady) a little cooler than lukewarm, while holding the egg in the stream, i'd gently work off whatever bothered me ...i didn't scrub them... then i'd let them air dry or set them right in the bator..... on some, i'm sure i disrupted the bloom, but like mrsbachbach (i love that name!) just said and i agree with... better than dealing w/ the nasties that could be there..
i've never used a commercial sanitizer, but w/ things being what they are, it'd probably be a good move...

 

[MysteriaSdrassa]

just a thought that passed randomly through my head because i saw the recent egg washing stuff,,, but,,,, i seem to remember the sciency types saying that this strain of AI was susceptable to higher temps,, that it did well in cooler weather at that the summer heat would help kill off any soil bore virus,,, which just may be since we haven't seen a new case pop up in 13 days now........ so,, considering that an incubator runs at a constant near 100 degrees, much warmer than most average summer temps,,,, and considering that the incubation period of this strain is up to 21 days,, wouldn't that pretty much wipe out any virus that may have been on the eggs by the time the chicks hatch anyway?
Maybe mother nature had this figured out long before us and built in a sort of safegaurd so entire species wouldn't be wiped out by saving the chicks.
I'm no scientist,, or even an expert,, but that would make sense to me anyway

 

[allbirds4me]

just a thought that passed randomly through my head because i saw the recent egg washing stuff,,, but,,,, i seem to remember the sciency types saying that this strain of AI was susceptable to higher temps,, that it did well in cooler weather at that the summer heat would help kill off any soil bore virus,,, which just may be since we haven't seen a new case pop up in 13 days now........ so,, considering that an incubator runs at a constant near 100 degrees, much warmer than most average summer temps,,,, and considering that the incubation period of this strain is up to 21 days,, wouldn't that pretty much wipe out any virus that may have been on the eggs by the time the chicks hatch anyway?
Maybe mother nature had this figured out long before us and built in a sort of safegaurd so entire species wouldn't be wiped out by saving the chicks.
I'm no scientist,, or even an expert,, but that would make sense to me anyway

according to the info in this link http://www.iowaagriculture.gov/AvianInfluenza.asp
you would have to heat the eggs to 133 degrees to kill the virus but very good thought !

the problem could be ( if 100 would kill the virus ) is that you would have already handled a possibly contaminated egg before the virus was killed on it thus contaminating everything else you touched before putting them the incubator heat & giving that a chance to kill the virus , is the fomite dilemma John was talking about.
( anything on you that has been exposed to the virus ( shoes, hands, clothing , etc. ) that touches anything else contaminates whatever it is you've touched)
As far as washing eggs go it's safe to do so , tektrol and virkon to name a couple have products to do that with.
you just have to be sure the water is about 10 degrees warmer than the egg to draw the bacteria OUT of the pores . Colder water would suck bacteria into the pores.
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[seminolewind]

I didn't know that Virkon was safe to wash eggs with. I know it's probably the best commercial disinfectant for the animal area and tools.

 

[allbirds4me]

I didn't know that Virkon was safe to wash eggs with. I know it's probably the best commercial disinfectant for the animal area and tools.

in all honesty I was drawing off memory from info years ago about using the virkon, I remember they had details for using it to clean eggs but can't find that in their spec. sheets now.
just looked up everything I could find on virkon and don't see egg sanitizing anywhere any longer.
some people still do use it for the such, personally I stick with tek trol.

 

[seminolewind]

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I wonder what the stuff they sell to wash eggs is made of?

 

[Sylvester017]

I do believe that Marek's cannot survive on an egg shell. (Diseases of Poultry, chief Editor Saif)

I have a very simple way of cleaning eggs. I pick up the egg, spit on it and rub it on my shirt. Works every time.

That is very funny!

The only reason I don't kiss my chickens (very tempting sometimes on the very cute chickens!) is because I researched that chickens are not resistant to the numerous bacteria in human saliva so I am conscious of not feeding anything to the chickens that has been bitten/eaten/kissed/or spit by humans. After eating we also wash our hands and also prior to and after handling chickens or their feed. Correct me if I'm wrong but it was something I researched a couple years ago.