deworming chickens????????????????

[henmama6plus]

I also just bought some poultry Conditioning as i saw some remarks on dark spots on roos cone could be a defficiency in their diets. I am sure it is not Avian pox or even Mites. I have researched this for several days. It might be scabs but Im not sure as they first appeared last summer. I sew a few more now than I did originally so that eleminates Avian Pox but it still could be Mites. I use DE liberally in their bedding and try to keep it clean. Even though I am practicing the deep method. I have not seen any mites anywhere on the birds. Last summer I would itch after picking them up and I started using the DE and that stopped. They are not infested with Mites but tey might carry a few? I was thinking the extra stuff in the Poultry Conditioning would help if they have a defficiency of any kind and since my girls have lost a few feathers from over aggressive Roos it could not hurt them all to get this stuff. I feed Layena feed and mix cracked corn in it to stretch it and I also let them free range in our yard daily. In the Summer they were out 8 or more hours. Less time out now that it is winter. I don't let them out till 11 or later then they stay out till dark. Anyway anybody know about the Poultry Conditioning and or the Dewormer in the prior post by me.????

 

[Rreese]

OK, so now I'm really confused. I'm have no idea what all the DE/ACV and whatever else is to start with. I have 5 day old chicks. Do I deworm them now? Is it bad for them? If I want to try to keep them from getting worms, is there a safe way for the chicks to do that? How often do you do it and what do you use? Also someone mentioned mite dust or something.... is there something, safe, that I can put on them or give them to keep the mites from bothering them?

DE= Diatomaceous Earth= controls certain pests (SOME mites, fleas, ants)
ACV=apple cider vinegar
DON'T deworm your chicks yet, they have protection from their mamas still & probably haven't had much exposure.

 

[Zen Chicken]

Chlorox might be a bit much.

Try some Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide from the Health Food Store.

A couple of drops in a Gallon of water.

It's not generally recommended for internal consumption, but neither is Bleach.

Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide can be used as a general antiseptic, mouth-wash, vegetable washing agent.

Be aware of the percentage declaration on the bottle, and make sure it is "Food Grade".

The percentiles can range from 3%, 5%, 10%, 15%, 35%.

The Drug-Store grade hydrogen peroxide is contaminated with assortments of chemicals, and is not fit for use as Food Wash, Food Surfaces, .Food Storage Surfaces or Food Handling Tools.

 

[donrae]

Chlorox might be a bit much.

Try some Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide from the Health Food Store.

A couple of drops in a Gallon of water.

It's not generally recommended for internal consumption, but neither is Bleach.

Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide can be used as a general antiseptic, mouth-wash, vegetable washing agent.

Be aware of the percentage declaration on the bottle, and make sure it is "Food Grade".

The percentiles can range from 3%, 5%, 10%, 15%, 35%.

The Drug-Store grade hydrogen peroxide is contaminated with assortments of chemicals, and is not fit for use as Food Wash, Food Surfaces, .Food Storage Surfaces or Food Handling Tools.

Can you site some references of this for me? I looked at my regular H2O2 and it's just labeled as hydrogen peroxide and purified water. What "assortment of chemicals" are in peroxide? Since it's so easy to manufacture, why would the makers add things to it, and wouldn't that make it not H2O2?

 

[paneubert]

Can you site some references of this for me? I looked at my regular H2O2 and it's just labeled as hydrogen peroxide and purified water. What "assortment of chemicals" are in peroxide? Since it's so easy to manufacture, why would the makers add things to it, and wouldn't that make it not H2O2?

Yeah....especially since the "drug store" grade (if that is even a thing...) is used by pouring on open wounds and rinsing around in your mouth. I don't think any sources will be forthcoming. At least no sources outside highly questionable websites.

Although to give the credit where credit is due, a lot of hydrogen peroxide formulations do have stabilizers in them. Just tiny amounts of things that keep it from degrading quite as fast, etc... I think the "food grade" just means that the seller is claiming zero stabilizers, and therefore shorter lifespan of the product.

 

[rainbowsandy]

I was going to use Wazine 17 to worm my chickens but it said, "Do not to use in chickens producing eggs for human consumption"
What should I use, what is the best? They do not have any visible worms but I'd like to do it yearly or bi-yearly to keep them healthy.

 

[Intheswamp]

Of the products you listed I would most lean toward fenbendazole, commonly sold as Safeguard. I use the liquid Safeguard for goats as it's easy to measure and administer. Ivermectin's I wouldn't waste time on as they have become quite ineffective as a poultry dewormer. Wazine will only get rid of roundworms and chickens can get many other worms. I guess my point is that if you are going to deworm, use something effective that will do the job. Another very good one is Valbazen (albendazole) Valbazen will get rid of anything a chicken can pick up. I use that in rotation with the Safeguard.

The downside to using dewormer's in their water is that dosing is hit and miss. BIrd's may drink more or less depending on the weather and other factors. But for people who have very large flocks it may be the only way to get the job done. It's really not that stressful to dose each bird. No, they don't like it but it's over in a second. We get them off the roost in the evening. I have my syringes all loaded and we are in and out of the coops very fast.

And no, most dewormer's are not labeled for chickens. If we want to control worms effectively we must use other products "off label". And no, you will not find anything on 1-800-Petmeds. Do some research here and buy from your local feed store or on-line. I get my Valbazen from Amazon. But check with your local feed stores or Tractor Supply.

Chicks do not need to be dewormed. They haven't been around long enough to develop a worm load. I deworm my birds for the first time at 6 months old and deworm twice a year. Your climate will dictate how often you should deworm. A warm/wet climate = more worms, hotter/dryer = less.

Lots of people like to use ACV. I used to, I don't bother with it anymore. If you have plastic water containers it does help with the algae. It won't deworm your birds. I really don't like to go overboard adding much of anything to my birds water other then vitamins occasionally. When we have a heat wave I'll add some electrolytes, otherwise they just get fresh, clean water every day.

I was going to use Wazine 17 to worm my chickens but it said, "Do not to use in chickens producing eggs for human consumption"
What should I use, what is the best? They do not have any visible worms but I'd like to do it yearly or bi-yearly to keep them healthy.

The post above was on the previous page...it may help.

 

[lynx04]

So I'm going to chime in here. If you're basing your warnings against using ACV merely based upon the idea that it's such a small amount in a large amount of water, then I must respectfully disagree. I'm not saying that it does or doesn't work- that I don't know- but when it comes to systems, even the smallest little alteration can cause significant changes. I say this because I am a breast cancer survivor. I take a teeny-tiny little pill once a day (about the same size as those color balls that are on the head of a pin) and it's enough to keep my breast cancer from returning. In addition, with the natural methods, you are giving them for prolonged periods of time so small exposures for short periods of time build up.

As I said, I have no idea if these natural remedies do work, but I just don't want people discounting them solely because it's such a small amount. That's a very misleading concept.

 

[JDB21]

No one will answer the actual freaking question though. It's good to rotate worm meds. The chicken chick website has a good post from a Vet regarding worming and schedules for it


What do people who routinely deworm with an actual dewormer use?

 

[JDB21]

The chicken chick website has a post from a vet regarding worming meds and schedules for worming hope this helps