Deworming experience from start to finish.

[casportpony]

The only "legal" chicken drug that I have is Sulmet, the rest are "off label", or worse, BANNED by the FDA (Baytril, Metranidazole)!

 

[willowbranchfarm]

The only "legal" chicken drug that I have is Sulmet, the rest are "off label", or worse, BANNED by the FDA (Baytril, Metranidazole)!

 

[desertmarcy]

The tablet form, I'm guessing is Praziquantel - it's only sold in powder and tablet form...also not approved for chickens in the US, but is used for cats, dogs, aquarium fish, AND people (infected with pork tapeworms).

The two most common and effective medicines for tapeworms...seemingly in most animals, including people, is Albendazole and Praziquantel. For people, the therapy is usually a combination of the two. I've treated my chickens with Albendazole, and the Praziquantel just arrived today...

I'm not sure what the third medication might be....my only guess is Niclosamide...

So visual inspection with the naked eye will only reveal tapeworm proglottids - what was posted in the photos. There are a bunch of other types of worms that chickens can have, but those worm eggs are not visible to the naked eye, and you would need to conduct a fecal float and look under a microscope to confirm which type of worm(s). The good news is, if it's not tapeworms, then the variety of medication you can use becomes more "on-label."

Well I thought there were 3 things---but I found my notes, and also did an Internet search to confirm I wrote down correctly, and there are only 2 things. The tablet brand name is Trifen plus and contains .2 mg of abamectine and 30 mg albendazole and it was the albendazole that he said treated the tapeworms. So that is correct and he probably was not aware of Valbazen. Whew! Glad I don't have to smuggle drugs from Mexico

 

[casportpony]

I smuggle mine online from Asia and India!

 

[tgooberbutt]

The tablet brand name is Trifen plus and contains .2 mg of abamectine and 30 mg albendazole and it was the albendazole that he said treated the tapeworms. So that is correct and he probably was not aware of Valbazen. Whew! Glad I don't have to smuggle drugs from Mexico

30mg/tablet - do you remember how many tablets were recommended per chicken or kg...what the dosing or administration recommendations were?

 

[cowcreekgeek]

Lets face it here. They regulate and approve all kinds of drugs. Which later on turn out to cause heartattack, mental problems, stroke, etc. I am going to go with what others have used and have proven that worked in their own backyard flock. Gonna put in an order at Jeffers tomorrow as I have not wormed my chickens yet and they are 10 months old.
I wasnt too concerned because I did not see anything in their poo. Learned some things on this thread!

Is it ok to worm them when they are molting?

I think I'd wait 'til they've recovered from the stress of molting, before entering the stress of worming, unless there's some really pressing concern. For certain: Fenbendazole should never be given during molt, as it causes some funky issues in the emerging feathers.

 

[gg706]

Thank You for the advice. I will wait until they are done...hopefully they will get finished up and I can worm them before they start back laying heavy in spring.

 

[cowcreekgeek]

So this started a whole discussion on worming and he said he goes to Mexico and gets a wormer that has a component not available anymore in the U.S. (Sorry my notes are still in my truck as yet not all unpacked---will get it and post later) and he CLAIMED it was the only thing that would treat tapeworms. So I said, not remembering exactly what it was I bought, but I did remember it was supposed to treat tapeworms, that I had some stuff that does. He asked was it liquid--Yes--then he said, no it won't. The medicine he was getting (with no declaration at the border of course) is a tablet. Perhaps he is right if the product is specifically marked for POULTRY, I'm not sure. I didn't think to say well this is a cattle medicine, but then I did look at the bottle of pills he had and one of the ingredients was albendazole, but the ingredient that he said worked for the tapeworms was something else (there were 3 active ingredients in this pill). He does repackage and sell the pills, but I said I wanted to try what I already bought first.

The tablet form, I'm guessing is Praziquantel - it's only sold in powder and tablet form...also not approved for chickens in the US, but is used for cats, dogs, aquarium fish, AND people (infected with pork tapeworms).

The two most common and effective medicines for tapeworms...seemingly in most animals, including people, is Albendazole and Praziquantel. For people, the therapy is usually a combination of the two. I've treated my chickens with Albendazole, and the Praziquantel just arrived today...

I'm not sure what the third medication might be....my only guess is Niclosamide...

Hygromycin No Longer Marketed


Hygromycin B (Hygromix

, Elanco) has been withdrawn from the market in the U.S. for sales and marketing reasons. This leaves the U.S. broiler industry with no feed-thru treatment for the control of roundworms (Ascaridia galli), cecal worms (Heterakis gallinarum), and capillaria worms (Capillaria obsignata). This presents a therapeutic challenge, since piperazine is approved for treating roundworms only, and some veterinarians believe it is rapidly losing efficacy. Also, there are currently no FDA licensed wormers for Capillaria, Heterakis, and tape worm infestations in chickens. The organophosphate Meldane

(Coumaphos) is not used because of its toxicity, low margin of safety and negative effects on egg production. We are not aware of any new anthelmintics under developmenet to fill this treatment void.

 

[cowcreekgeek]

For details on Abamectin, see:
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/24d-captan/abamectin-ext.html

Also ...

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[tgooberbutt]

Cleaned today's coop-poop.

Good news, no tapeworm proglottids.

Bad/Good news, I found these in the poop of one of chickens that got medicated two days ago. I thought I saw round worms in poop before. This is what I saw way back when. Can someone tell me if these are indeed roundworms? If not, what kind of worms are these? The Albendazole seems to have done a number on them...they are either very paralyzed or dead. The first time I saw these worms in poop a few weeks back, they were moving. I know Aldendazole is a good broad-spectrum dewormer...so its good it also caught whatever this is...




I gave the flock another round of 30mg/kg Albendazole soaked into bread cubes today. Even though I got the Praziquantel today, I figure I'll use that with the chicken's third and final does a few days down the line...