Deworming experience from start to finish.

[cowcreekgeek]

I have been following this thread to learn all I can and refer to when I need to worm. Just wondering since I'm new... who would 'edit' it? I guess I'm just not sure how that works on this forum.
thx.

Well ... I woulda said 'moderation' but, when req'd? They tend to show too little of that, although I think it's mostly that they delete, rather than modify, posts they choose to remove, and thereby eliminate all posts that are connected to the thread by the 'offending' one(s), sorta like dominoes.

Not much of a way to say, "Welcome to BYC," but ... hey ...
welcome to BYC ~'-)

 

[cowcreekgeek]

Not instended to be a pretty post ... more as a work product ~'-)

Notice this WARNING first:
This is in no manner intended to be a definitive or comprehensive listing, but merely a work product for those interested in natural anthelmintics 'n such, and the uses contained herein are for swine unless otherwise noted.

Material used,
Properties of the material,
Reference of the information,
Source of the material,
Comments about it's use.

aconite
Dun
monkshood, wolfsbane, blue rocket
sedative, kills by respiratory arrest

aloe, aloin
purgative
Dun
aloe
aloin is the crystalline form, produces both peristalsis and increased secretions,
"acts notably on the large intestines, which explains in part its rather slow effects,"
"not so irritant as croton, colocynth, or podophyllin"

aloes
cathartic
Hall

American wormseed
anthelmintic
Hall
preceeded or followed by castor oil

areca nut
vermicide, astringent
Dun
Areca catechu, betel nut
depresses respiration, destroys tape and round worms.
"It is usually desirable to conjoin with the areca mx to mxv of male shield fern fluid extract."
"Previous to the administration of areca to a verminous patient, the bowels should be cleared out by any simple laxitive, and their further emptiness ensured by several hours' fasting."

areca nut
anthelmintic
Kinsley

areca nut
anthelmintic
Hall

Areca Nuts
anthelmintic
Conn
in worm remedy for poultry

artemisia, santonin
anthelmintic, narcotic, spinal stimulant
Dun
Artemisia absinthium, Artemisia maritima, absinthol, absinthin
"without effect on taenia, but destructive to round and thread worms"

Beta-Napthol
Conn
in worm remedy for swine, probably prohibited in organic production

black walnut
Hess #16

calomel
anthelmintic
Ludlow

calomel
external antiparasitic, stimulant, dessicant
Dun

mercurous chloride
kill the parasite or kill the host!

calomel
anthelmintic
Hall

castor oil
irritant, purgative
Dun
crushed seeds are an Indian cure for mange.
"To increase its activity it is combined with small quantities of oil of turpentine or of croton.

castor oil
Conn
in worm remedy for swine

catechu
astringent
Dun
Catechu palidum
administered for the arrest of chronic mucus discharges

chenopodium
anthelmintic
1942 USDA
with santonin

cloves
Hess #16

echinacea
Hess #16

Epsom Salts
Conn
in water, follows 24 h after other treatments in worm remedy for poultry

fern root (male shield fern)
vermicide, irritant, laxative
Dun
Aspidium felix-mas, A. marginale
"one of the most effectual remedies for tapeworm, especially in dogs." sometines with areca nut

hyssop
Hess #16

jalap
hydragogue cathartic, vermifuge
Dun
Ipomoea purga tubercles
(Convolvulaceae)
very gentle cathartic action, sometimes with calomel

kamala
purgativem vermicide
Dun
Mallotus philippinensis
powder from the minute glands and hairs of the fruits.
"Rather more severe than areca nut and male shield fern"

kuosso, kosin
vermicide
Dun
Hagenia abyssinica (dried pannicles of female flowers) rosacea family
narcotizes and kills intestinal worms

male fern
Hall

mucuna bean, cowhage
anthelmintic
Ludlow
Mucuna pruriens
use the brown hairs covering the seed pod

oil of chenopodium
anthelmintic
Hall

oil of chenopodium
anthelmintic
Conn
in worm remedy for swine

oil of chenopodium
anthelmintic
Alexander
withold feed 24 h until just before treatment

oil of thyme
Conn
in worm remedy for swine

oil of japanese camphor
Conn
in worm remedy for swine

oil of thyme
Conn
in worm remedy for poultry

pau d'arco
Hess #16

pink root
anthelmintic
Ludlow
Spigelia marilandica
It is one of the best anthelmintics.

podophyllum, podophyllin
emetic, anthelmintic
Dun
Podophyllum peltatum, May apple, mandrake
"vegetable mercury" produces nausea, reduces pulse.
"Although posessed of vermifuge powers, depending on ist purgative effect, it does not appear to have any special vermicide action."

pomegrante root bark
anthelmintic
Ludlow

quassia wood
vermicide, tonic
Dun
Picraena excelsa
ground wood used as an enema for worms, kills flies and fish

quassia
anthelmintic

resistance
premunition
Haynes
"There is a school of thought among many competent parasitologists that a low level of infection may actually be desirable because it stimulates some immunity (premunition)...
The premunition concept is being actively pursued and in the not too distant future we may see vaccines cleared for use in this country which will prevent major worm infestations.
Such products are in limited use in Europe now."

sanitation
prophylactic
Kinsley
"Prevention is far more satisfactory than treatment of infected hogs."

santonica
anthelmintic
Hall
Santonin is used ... but is expensive and in single dose is less effective than chenopodium.

santonin
anthelmintic
Alexander
follw in 12 h with epsom salts in milk

santonin
anthelmintic
Kinsley

savin
stimulant, anthelmintic, diuretic
Dun
Juniperus sabina
large doses produce gastroenteritis, irritates the uterus, intestines, and urinary organs

skim milk or whey
acidifier
1956 USDA
Pigs so fed remain free of worms, or nearly so.

stavesacre seeds
destroys external parasites
Dun
Delphinium staphisagria, Ranunculaceae, larkspur
alkaloids paralyze motor nerves, arrest respiration, used in ointments

thymol
Hall

tobacco
anthelmintic
Conn
in worm remedy for poultry

tobacco
topical irritant
Dun
Nicotiana tabacum
"Tobacco is rarely prescribed internally, but is used externally as an antiparasitic."
stimulates and then paralyzes spinal cord, involuntary muscles, and nerves of secreting glands

turpentines
topical irritant, stimualnt, laxative, anthelmintic
external drench fpr thread and tape worms

valerian
topical irritant, stimualnt, antispasmodic
Dun
Valeriana oficinalis
in large doses paralyzes the spinal cord and brain, excites and attracts cats

veratrine
topical irritant, subsequent paralyzant, parasiticide
Dun
Sabadilla or Cevadilla, Schoenocaulon officinale or Asagraea officinalis
from dried ripe seeds of Mexican lilly, produces prolonged muscular contraction, sometimes used to relieve rheumatic and neuralgic pains, and as a parasiticide and vermin killer"

worm seed, Jerusalem oak
anth
Ludlow
Chenopodium anthelminticum
It is one of the best. Use the powdered seeds

wormwood
anthelmintic
Hess #16

References
Alexander, A.S. 1943. The Veterinary Advisor. Orange Judd Publishing Co., N.Y.
Conn, George H. 1942. Practical Veterinarian. Breeder Publications, Chicago.
Dun, Finlay. 1892. Veterinary Medicines. David Douglas, Edinburgh.
Hall, Maurice C. 1924. Parasites of Swine. L.A. Merillat Co.
Haynes, N. Bruce. 1985. Keeping Livestock Healthy. Garden Way Publishing, Pownal, VT.
Hess Farm Supply, Formula #16
Kinsley, A.T. 1914. Swine Diseases. American Veterinary Supply Company, Kansas City.
Ludlow, J.L. 1860. A Manual of Examinations, A Medical Formulary. Blanchard and Lea, Philadelphia.
UDSA 1942 Yearbook of Agriculture, Keeping Livestock Healthy. U.S.D.A.
USDA 1956 Yearbook of Agriculture, Animal Diseases. U.S. Govt. Printing Office

Notice this WARNING (again):
This is in no manner intended to be a definitive or comprehensive listing, but merely a work product for those interested in natural anthelmintics 'n such, and the uses contained herein are for swine unless otherwise noted.

 

[cutlerfam7]

Has anyone thought of summerzing this post up? I have not enough time in the week to get through all of this info.

 

[tgooberbutt]

The 'short' version, and anyone, please correct me if I'm remembering incorrectly, or missing any big points....

• Diagnosis: if you see moving whitish colored things in the poop (proglottids - sections of eggs), it's tapeworms. However, just because you don't see proglottids does not mean your chickens don't have worms. Non-tapeworm eggs are not visible to the human eye. To confirm infestation, you will need (to have) a fecal float conducted.
• Medication: Medicate with Albendazole (Commercial name: Valabzen) @ ~20-30mg/kg of chicken per dosing period. Do a search of this thread for the dosing timetable. You can also medicate with Prazequntel @ ~10mg/kg. Albendazole will kill almost any worm. Praziquntel is only effective (but very effective) for tape worms. Ivermectin is no longer effective as a dewormer...it has lost its efficacy over the years. Worms are persistent, and can develop resistance to medicines. So you have to kill the off completely when you dose with these medicines. Withdrawal periods vary by opinion...everything from Praziquntel is used in humans and thus consumable immediately, to a very safe withdrawal period of 14 days.
• Homeopathics: Maybe they work, maybe they don't. There's no proof that 'natural remedies' actually work, but there's no harm in tacking it on. Suggestions have been: yogurt/buttermilk/probiotics to help rebuild good digestive bacteria after treatment. Apple Cider Vinegar in the water to discourage worm proliferation in the system, possibly even papaya enzymes.
• Long Term: In the long term the primary suggestions have been to: monitor your chickens closely to see if there are weight changes, behavioral changes. Control the fly and vector population so worm eggs are not as prevalent in your coop/yard. If worms are a problem, and you don't mind medication, you should consider a regular de-worming schedule...2x/yr, coinciding with the Fall and Spring. Rotate your medications so the worms in your area are less likely to build up a resistance to any one medication.

Has anyone thought of summerzing this post up? I have not enough time in the week to get through all of this info.

 

[tgooberbutt]

FYI - just started my spring worming (a little late)....