Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[Sally Sunshine]

Hey guys Havent been on for nearly a week now. Was spending the last few days with my parents and they left yesterday morning. Very upset and down about it but hey ho thats life! Anyways there is no way I have time to read a weeks worth of the thread!!!!!

I took some turners out of the incubator today as my one Turkey egg that is way ahead of the others has started rocking and rolling!! I have no idea how far along it is so do you think I should turn it still or no?? its been moving for about 3 days now. I have read all of the hatching 101 but not really figured out this one! My chickens are due to hatch on the 12th yet some of them look much further along than that! What to dooooo?!

Hope your all keeping well anyways and have missed reading up on everyone.

I hope you had a wonderful week!!!

I wouldn't turn it, its the first 10-12 days that's most important, not sure what other questions you have? air cell growth is still all different? this is common with shipped eggs, you will have to do your best to get the majority where it needs to be.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

That's what I was thinking too and the reason I have taken some of the turners out. I will be picking up some cloths like sally suggests on the hatching 101 (great thread by the way Sally)

Thanks! Happy its helping others!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

well..my lil black silkie died tonight.

everyone seemed fine till this morning.. he was "off" acting. tried the electrolyte water and nothing seemed to help! poor baby! and my broody that had 2 pipped eggs... well neither one of those made it either! not sure what happened there. poor screech! she really wants to be a mama! i did have 2 others under a broody that are doing great so some good news...

oh noooo!!!!!! I am so sorry !!!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

for those of you just way too busy to jump over to my thread

Megabator Update Day 11

Bernie did his first ever candling last night. The results:

Guinea Fowl 9 from 24
Turkey 13 from 33 (corrected from 9)
Peacock 7 from 11
Goose 4 from 12

He did not candle chicken eggs. He will look at 60 tonight.

I can live with these numbers. I hope for a 25% hatch rate and would be over the moon with 50%.

At this stage its really about establishing viable breeding pairs that can propagate the breed there.

Double shipped eggs that traveled up to 10000 miles, that are a minimum of a week old when set, and not stored for that 7 plus days in stable temps does not bode well for 80% hatch rates we all dream of.

I plan to set 20 eggs from my young hens next trip to see how they fare travelling 50 yards.

wonder why the numbers are so low? did he say if its air cells/scrambles or infertilities?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

having an issue with one chick. he will not lay down to sleep. he is so tired, his wings are droopy and falls asleep standing. he always keeps his butt in the air. the only way he lays down is if i hold him. any ideas?

have you checked his poo? how old is the chick? vent is not blocked? you use medicated feed? crop is ok? is he blue face feet?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote:
I pray you don't get any mold in the bator, does your home have issues with mold and stuff? never really thought about that stuff where your at! I guess not because you never had issues.

Does Bernie have a larger fan to install in the bator or several more small ones?

also I ran into this because our parents have a small stream in their old house basement, we were trying to help them out in turn they decided to call a HVAC guy and he switched out their dehumidifier unit. But in your case maybe you can switch parts on your dehumidifier later on? IDK if this will mean anything to you, just thought to share it just in case
http://www.totalairsupply.com/6 August 07 Humidity Facts.pdf

Why is a TEV (thermal expansion valve)
better for humidity removal than a fixed
bore (piston) metering device?
When a unit doesn’t have capacity
control such as a fixed bore metering device,
most humidity control issues occur at part
load (lower dry bulb temperatures but still
having high humidity) conditions.
Because we use dry bulb
thermostats to control the equipment, run
times will be shorter on part load cycles
which will also reduce humidity removal.
Oversized equipment will make part
load conditions even worse for the occupant
because it will bring the space to its set dry​

bulb temperature. Short run times only

remove sensible heat (heat added or
removed to raise or lower temperature) but
does nothing about removing the latent heat
(heat added or removed to change the state
such as ice to water, water to vapor, or vise
versa) in the water vapor. In a nutshell, less
run time equals less humidity removal.
Changing the metering device to a
thermal expansion valve will give maximum
evaporator capacity at part load conditions
because it utilizes more coil surface for​

moisture control.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

LMAO my son is here for a visit and said.... "he is in Philippines? put a layer of rice in the bottom of it DOH Mom"

tip to everyone with little kids DO NOT LET THEM GROW UP!

 

[mikkles]

oh noooo!!!!!! I am so sorry !!!

Thanks!

 

[Toast n Jelly]

Quote:
I pray you don't get any mold in the bator, does your home have issues with mold and stuff? never really thought about that stuff where your at! I guess not because you never had issues.

Does Bernie have a larger fan to install in the bator or several more small ones?

also I ran into this because our parents have a small stream in their old house basement, we were trying to help them out in turn they decided to call a HVAC guy and he switched out their dehumidifier unit. But in your case maybe you can switch parts on your dehumidifier later on? IDK if this will mean anything to you, just thought to share it just in case
http://www.totalairsupply.com/6 August 07 Humidity Facts.pdf

Why is a TEV (thermal expansion valve)
better for humidity removal than a fixed
bore (piston) metering device?
When a unit doesn’t have capacity
control such as a fixed bore metering device,
most humidity control issues occur at part
load (lower dry bulb temperatures but still
having high humidity) conditions.
Because we use dry bulb
thermostats to control the equipment, run
times will be shorter on part load cycles
which will also reduce humidity removal.
Oversized equipment will make part
load conditions even worse for the occupant
because it will bring the space to its set dry​

bulb temperature. Short run times only

remove sensible heat (heat added or
removed to raise or lower temperature) but
does nothing about removing the latent heat
(heat added or removed to change the state
such as ice to water, water to vapor, or vise
versa) in the water vapor. In a nutshell, less
run time equals less humidity removal.
Changing the metering device to a
thermal expansion valve will give maximum
evaporator capacity at part load conditions
because it utilizes more coil surface for​

moisture control.
He may have a point, actually rice does soak up humidity. People put rice in sugar containers so that the sugar can be poured out smoothly and not stick together. Can you imagine the amount of swollen rice Bernie could have each day?

Just add meat and supper is ready! You need to give that boy some credit for thinking outside of the box.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote:
I pray you don't get any mold in the bator, does your home have issues with mold and stuff? never really thought about that stuff where your at! I guess not because you never had issues.

Does Bernie have a larger fan to install in the bator or several more small ones?

also I ran into this because our parents have a small stream in their old house basement, we were trying to help them out in turn they decided to call a HVAC guy and he switched out their dehumidifier unit. But in your case maybe you can switch parts on your dehumidifier later on? IDK if this will mean anything to you, just thought to share it just in case
http://www.totalairsupply.com/6 August 07 Humidity Facts.pdf

Why is a TEV (thermal expansion valve)
better for humidity removal than a fixed
bore (piston) metering device?
When a unit doesn’t have capacity
control such as a fixed bore metering device,
most humidity control issues occur at part
load (lower dry bulb temperatures but still
having high humidity) conditions.
Because we use dry bulb
thermostats to control the equipment, run
times will be shorter on part load cycles
which will also reduce humidity removal.
Oversized equipment will make part
load conditions even worse for the occupant
because it will bring the space to its set dry​

bulb temperature. Short run times only

remove sensible heat (heat added or
removed to raise or lower temperature) but
does nothing about removing the latent heat
(heat added or removed to change the state
such as ice to water, water to vapor, or vise
versa) in the water vapor. In a nutshell, less
run time equals less humidity removal.
Changing the metering device to a
thermal expansion valve will give maximum
evaporator capacity at part load conditions
because it utilizes more coil surface for​

moisture control.
He may have a point, actually rice does soak up humidity. People put rice in sugar containers so that the sugar can be poured out smoothly and not stick together. Can you imagine the amount of swollen rice Bernie could have each day?

Just add meat and supper is ready! You need to give that boy some credit for thinking outside of the box.

OMG now that you said that, when was in college he bought huge bag of rice and trash bag to put his laptop inside when he spilt something on it! AND IT WORKED! and I swear his cell phone lived in a ziplockricebag! perhaps we should paten ziplockricecellphone cASES ????