Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[HickoryHollow]

My batch in lock-down were my first batch out of an egg turner. It will be interesting to see what happens. Tomorrow is day 21!

 

[rbaker0345]

I have definitely found that I've gotten better results from styro bators with just egg turners than those with just fans.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

I am so happy!!

remember my dogs Killed my RIR!

And now I can say that the eggs I HRIR eggs I bought and had shipped are ALL PIPPED!! all 11 viable day 20 is today!
Initially 2 I had to chuck as they were cracked bottoms and rollers, and one I think was infertile or had internal damage from shipping, it too had a big moving air cell and never did anything so I cant call infertile because I didnt breakout to analyse.

I will have HRIR chicks tomorrow and maybe some late tonight if I am lucky!! YAY go chickies!!

Oh I pray I get all 11 and no issues!! If it pips its got great chance!

I am so thrilled to have peeked and seen every egg EVERY EGG and three of my own CCL in lockdown have pippers!!
First time that I peered in a bator and seen that every single egg had a pip! first time EVER! sweetness.... now watch none will hatch

ugggghh if I had gotten up earlier I may have saved this HRIR so mad!

external pip, totally absorbed but the little guy must have had his head on the wrong side of his wing and couldn't zip out, he was rolled all over in the egg.
Definitely was traveling in that egg, just couldn't get to peck shell. poor mite. So I have 10 HRIR hatched instead of the 11 that went into lockdown, I shouldnt complain I just hate seeing this type of breakout.
sucks everyone else was hatched and if I would have had my nose on the bator last night I would have seen they all hatched but one and could have stepped in to see what was up.
So with experience comes ignorance too. But it happened, I would bet money the momma hen would have pecked this one out, no doubt about it. What a great timed hatch, overnight and complete!





Last of the hatch is drying off on clean papertowels in the coolerbator, brooder light on warming up for them, more images later.
Can I mention again I love my new Cabinet CoolerBator and my Coolerbators? well I do!



NOTES and Summary of this batch of shipped eggs @ozexpat
Shipped from KY 3/31 and Arrived in PA 4/2
14 HRIR arrived in a shoe box, bubble wrapped and in peanuts, box marked this side up to be horizontal, eggs in this position air cell up.
2 of the oldest eggs marked 3/24 had rolling air cells, another 3/24 was very loose and had no growth, I didnt breakout this one to check fertility but my best guess is that it had internal damage from shipping, AGE of eggs definitely played a huge huge roll (no pun intended) in viability of this batch I can prove this over and over how that air cell size is important, eggs must be only 4 days old MAX when put into a box, 1-3 is always best. Also, my local mail carrier delivered the usps shoe box to my door in hands vertical, my guess is with shoe boxes they don't lay them flat or carry them horizontal despite what is written on the box, again 12x12x8.5 USPS box with an inner box could have very well prevented this along with 2-3 day old only eggs even though most were in this time frame it had severely effected the older eggs.

I set all 14 eggs after the 12-16 hours to settle to room temp and put them in the cabinet bator, ALL NORMAL eggs were turned from the start, the two rollers were not turned when set, no growth in them at day 2 and by day five were tossed because of seepage and cracks as seen above.

March 31, 2014 , 3:06 pm Acceptance LIBERTY, KY 42539


April 2, 2014 , 11:13 am

Delivered to PA​

Moved to brooder in between typing this LOL
photo shoot, buggers are little boogers and wouldnt stay still!




I had my three CCL eggs hatch too, excuse them in the puddle of redness LOL

 

[DaveOmak]

ugggghh if I had gotten up earlier I may have saved this HRIR so mad!

external pip, totally absorbed but the little guy must have had his head on the wrong side of his wing and couldn't zip out, he was rolled all over in the egg.
Definitely was traveling in that egg, just couldn't get to peck shell. poor mite. So I have 10 HRIR hatched instead of the 11 that went into lockdown, I shouldnt complain I just hate seeing this type of breakout.
sucks everyone else was hatched and if I would have had my nose on the bator last night I would have seen they all hatched but one and could have stepped in to see what was up.
So with experience comes ignorance too. But it happened, I would bet money the momma hen would have pecked this one out, no doubt about it. What a great timed hatch, overnight and complete!

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Was there a "sign" that this little one needed help..... What would you have looked for to let you know he/she needed help... I would have thought he was just a little slow to the party... Was there a sign his head was in the wrong position to pip the shell adequately....
Had you candled the shell, would it have been "obvious" that the "yolk and all" was totally absorbed and he was ready for "daylight"..... and possibly a mal positioned head/wing.....

I'm not suggesting you failed.... I'm suggesting I don't know squat and just trying to learn some of the "touchy/feely" things, some folks know, but don't really "know they know" until asked in a situation like this....

OR.... has a "sign flashed" for the next time a similar situation occurs....

Warning.... if you give me a really, really in depth skin tingling answer, I just may start calling you Sally Sherlock Sunshine.. The person that can pick clues out of the "totally not obvious"...

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Silky Duck day 18 candle and observation 8 still viable
SEE PENCIL marked ones, the others that are sharpied are the new ones I am weighing















I think the wet sanding in the bleach solution is helping with weight loss! YAY! Now I may have to start adding water to the cabinet or move them to the coolerbator to add a tad humidity but for now I think I am on track, I am told day 24 hatch so I will candle them often from here on out!

Wish them luck!!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

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I would have noticed that everyone else was hatching and zipping and this chick didnt do anything at the original pip not even bust it out more, I would have candled had I checked on them and it would have showed the air cell all filled up with dark chick and I would have broken him out immediately.

 

[foxvalleyfarm]

That looks awesome Sally!

 

[R2elk]

My last hatch is over. These were from shipped guinea eggs that were mailed in a chick box. The eggs were bubble wrapped and placed on their sides in the box. I could see a detached air cell in only one of the eggs. I believe that the shape of a chick box does aid in the USPS doing a better job of keeping the box right side up. I set the eggs in the turner after approximately 6 hours of resting and also added 4 of my own turkey eggs.

On day 26 the keets started hatching and on day 27 the turkeys hatched. Thirteen of fifteen guinea eggs made it to lock down with one clear and one blood ring disposed of. Eight of the remaining thirteen hatched with one more being a loss to shrink wrapping due to my failure to assist soon enough. One of the 4 turkey eggs was infertile and the remaining three eggs hatched.

White guinea keets


Lavender guinea keets

 

[Sally Sunshine]

My last hatch is over. These were from shipped guinea eggs that were mailed in a chick box. The eggs were bubble wrapped and placed on their sides in the box. I could see a detached air cell in only one of the eggs. I believe that the shape of a chick box does aid in the USPS doing a better job of keeping the box right side up. I set the eggs in the turner after approximately 6 hours of resting and also added 4 of my own turkey eggs.

On day 26 the keets started hatching and on day 27 the turkeys hatched. Thirteen of fifteen guinea eggs made it to lock down with one clear and one blood ring disposed of. Eight of the remaining thirteen hatched with one more being a loss to shrink wrapping due to my failure to assist soon enough. One of the 4 turkey eggs was infertile and the remaining three eggs hatched.

White guinea keets


Lavender guinea keets

wow they are pretty chicks! what do you feed them? can they have med chick starter or do they need something else.

What do you think happened in lockdown that you lost the others besides the shrinked wrap one?

Chick box is genious but expensive to ship in for sure, I bet you would have done even better had they shipped upright in it.
By the looks of the air cell when you got them, how old would you say the eggs were when set?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Candling Duck Eggs

http://www.metzerfarms.com/Candling.cfm?CustID=2470199