Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[Sally Sunshine]

I gotta take the kids into the hottub for the last time this season, I will empty it tomorrow and blow out the lines until next fall!
YES I AM FORCING Spring is HERE NOW!!!!

sooooo......

 

[Sparkypatriot15]

elvis looks like a polish mix and I would say roo : (
ameracauna should have pea comb not straight comb, and now I cant enlarge the photo in edit! LOL

Awwww darn....
Polish mix? Idk maybe they have polish? If they do then that's a new breed... And oh then I guess that means they are olive egger Roos.... Hmm! Strange hatch xD

 

[chicksooner]

hey now!!

I will have everyone know.....

I SOLD every single cochin chick I hatched in the past 3 months last night and today, and 10 silkies to boot!

I haven't sold Black Bettys two splash though, NOT YET anyways!!

Hold on to your babies black betty!!!

Has anyone here ever successfully hatched a chick with an air cell like the one i posted above???

Yes. I left mine sitting big end up in the egg carton and just tilted it back and forth instead of regular turning and the air cell gradually moved up enough. I left it in the egg carton to hatch. She just started laying today.

sis is scheduled for her second c section so i worry and know she will really need the help .. i did it alone after my second one and did the crawl on my knees and kept his bed right by mine ... it was pretty awful ... and i didnt have near as much done but was an emergency csection with him and they lost us both more than once... so i can imagine how awful that must have been

after 3 abdominal surgeries 2 of those were regular plain old csections I can imagine the pain you and Sally endured.

 

[Bitterroot]

I also agree with Sally (I hadn't read that when I posted)

But the genesis should not do that. When did you buy it? I would complain to the company. Yours is definitely mal-functioning. The temperature has never varied more than 1/2 a degree with mine.

About a month ago I think? Brand new, first time around for it. Don't get me wrong, my thermometers always read what I want them to read, but that's quite a temp swing. Granted, it does it fairly rapidly but it seems like such a waste of energy. Difference between proportional, which gives the heat source just enough energy to keep the set temp, and non which kicks on and off.

Sometimes I am just in the mood to argue. I am arguing in defense of the poor, mis-understood styro-bator.

And that's fine, but please remember that we're all entitled to our opinions and mine is that I think Hovabators are junk. Ask any reptile breeder who has more than a few breeding animals what they think of Hovabators. I figured I'd give it a try, and now I see why none of the reptile folks use these. *shrug* This might be my first time hatching poultry, but it ain't my first rodeo when it comes to eggs, at all. I've probably hatched close to $50k worth of reptiles in that cooler you see there. Do I think the Hovabator is trustworthy enough for even one of those eggs? No way. I understand how incubation works. I understand how incubators work. Or, how they should work. I've built many of them over the years, from all sorts of things. I understand the limitations of flimsy styrofoam. I just didn't think it would perform this pitifully. It's like I stepped out of a rolls royce at the dealership, and they handed me the keys to the beater pinto. Road safety orange, of course.

My room temps are stable. The incubators are in my reptile room, as I talked about several pages back, which has a steady temp (oil filled radiators on wired in thermostats and a fan to circulate air) of 80 degrees, and ambient humidity of 60%. There are no drafts. Windows are caulked and I have transparent film over them to keep out any cool air - also have heavy shades on them to keep sunlight off electronics, and the vent system to that room is completely closed off. My 24 hour temp swing for that room is less than one degree. There is no reason at all that shouldn't be a perfectly acceptable environment for this styrofoam incubator to work in. Don't even get me started on that ratchety turner.

My thermometers are precise. And when I say precise, I mean to less than a tenth of a degree accuracy. They also measure humidity accurately.

My cooler required absolutely no playing with electrical wire. Everything plugs in. Heat tape into the thermostat, thermostat into the wall. Fan also plugs right in. I purchased all of those items that way.

All I'm saying is, I'm not impressed. Why you old timers are taking such offense to it is beyond me. I'm just chatting about the normal daily goings on as is everyone else here, and that includes the fact that once I've got myself a hatcher built this thing is going out the window. Sorry if you are offended by my opinion on what I feel is a shoddy product for $200.

Last post on it. You guys have at it, but you'll never convince me my cooler isn't a million times better than styrofoam or that Hovabator isn't laughing all the way to the bank. If I'm not wanted here with the good ol boys just say so and I'll pack up my ball and go play elsewhere. There's a difference between a friendly debate, and calling someone an idiot without bothering to read the rest of their posts for the info that proves they're not (temps, thermometers, etc).

 

[silver1313]

i think its a matter of simple taste experience and preference to do what one wants .. i personally do not want the one i have anymore after this hatch ... that was all i meant ... did not mean to start a debate ..

 

[Gardeningmama]

Quote:
I don't think anyone REALLY wants to argue. Personally, I like my crappy Still Air LG incubator, and it's a good thing too because I love to hatch and can't afford to buy one of the superior models that many have on here. So, in my case ignorance is bliss. I know no better, so it suits me just fine. When it was first given to me I was told by someone on here they were such junk that you needed to duct tape them shut to hatch anything out of them. To date I have never had to duct tape anything, and have an 85% hatch rate through 7 hatches, so far. I am a complete novice, and my sincere opinion is that you received a faulty incubator. I'd be on the phone with the manufacturer if I were you.

 

[ozexpat]

About a month ago I think? Brand new, first time around for it. Don't get me wrong, my thermometers always read what I want them to read, but that's quite a temp swing. Granted, it does it fairly rapidly but it seems like such a waste of energy. Difference between proportional, which gives the heat source just enough energy to keep the set temp, and non which kicks on and off.

And that's fine, but please remember that we're all entitled to our opinions and mine is that I think Hovabators are junk. Ask any reptile breeder who has more than a few breeding animals what they think of Hovabators. I figured I'd give it a try, and now I see why none of the reptile folks use these. *shrug* This might be my first time hatching poultry, but it ain't my first rodeo when it comes to eggs, at all. I've probably hatched close to $50k worth of reptiles in that cooler you see there. Do I think the Hovabator is trustworthy enough for even one of those eggs? No way. I understand how incubation works. I understand how incubators work. Or, how they should work. I've built many of them over the years, from all sorts of things. I understand the limitations of flimsy styrofoam. I just didn't think it would perform this pitifully. It's like I stepped out of a rolls royce at the dealership, and they handed me the keys to the beater pinto. Road safety orange, of course.

My room temps are stable. The incubators are in my reptile room, as I talked about several pages back, which has a steady temp (oil filled radiators on wired in thermostats and a fan to circulate air) of 80 degrees, and ambient humidity of 60%. There are no drafts. Windows are caulked and I have transparent film over them to keep out any cool air - also have heavy shades on them to keep sunlight off electronics, and the vent system to that room is completely closed off. My 24 hour temp swing for that room is less than one degree. There is no reason at all that shouldn't be a perfectly acceptable environment for this styrofoam incubator to work in. Don't even get me started on that ratchety turner.

My thermometers are precise. And when I say precise, I mean to less than a tenth of a degree accuracy. They also measure humidity accurately.

My cooler required absolutely no playing with electrical wire. Everything plugs in. Heat tape into the thermostat, thermostat into the wall. Fan also plugs right in. I purchased all of those items that way.

All I'm saying is, I'm not impressed. Why you old timers are taking such offense to it is beyond me. I'm just chatting about the normal daily goings on as is everyone else here, and that includes the fact that once I've got myself a hatcher built this thing is going out the window. Sorry if you are offended by my opinion on what I feel is a shoddy product for $200.

Last post on it. You guys have at it, but you'll never convince me my cooler isn't a million times better than styrofoam or that Hovabator isn't laughing all the way to the bank. If I'm not wanted here with the good ol boys just say so and I'll pack up my ball and go play elsewhere. There's a difference between a friendly debate, and calling someone an idiot without bothering to read the rest of their posts for the info that proves they're not (temps, thermometers, etc).

cool your jets

i am not arguing with you. i was creating an argument for the use of the bator. and i never implied you are an idiot. your bator is grreat

there are thousands of people out there without the knowledge and experience you have - and all the money they can afford tied up in their styro bators. Insight into maximizing the use of them is all I was offering.

peace

and here is my home made bator





and by the way -comparative knowledge is best transferred in debate. I could post a whole diatribe on the down side of a styro bator but where would the fun be in doing what everyone else does.

(and thats the first time I have been called an old timer

). **** these fiery young whipper snappers

 

[MommaBee]

Slowest hatch ever.... Watching a large set is so much more fun than a little one! In my last small hatch all 5 hatched within 12 hours of each other. This one started 36 hours ago... 2 out, 1 to go. Dum dum dum!

I have been waiting on my last egg. It's been rocking and rolling for 2 days now. Pretty sure it pipped internally 24 hrs ago. Trying to sit on my hands but the image of that dead interal pipper from my first hatch is haunting me!

 

[MommaBee]

Oh and Sally I saw your feather sexing pic on the last page. Does that really work for most of you guys? I heard they had to be bred for feather sexing so I have not been doing it for my last 2 hatches. My first batch is 2.5 weeks old now, so I guess we will know in a few weeks if I am any good at it.

 

[Gardeningmama]

Slowest hatch ever.... Watching a large set is so much more fun than a little one! In my last small hatch all 5 hatched within 12 hours of each other. This one started 36 hours ago... 2 out, 1 to go. Dum dum dum!

I have been waiting on my last egg. It's been rocking and rolling for 2 days now. Pretty sure it pipped internally 24 hrs ago. Trying to sit on my hands but the image of that dead interal pipper from my first hatch is haunting me!

I know how hard it is... This is for you