Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[loveourbirds]

Quote: when the temps are 90 degrees in the daytime we have some problems like you have mentioned. i found (with my brooders) its best to take the heat lamps out and just put in 75-100 watt bulbs. also if im running 2 lamps in the same brooder (my brooders are 2 feet high and wide and 4 feet long) i take away one lamp.

other issues ive noticed, if you are using the quart or gallon automatic waterers, feel the inside and see if they feel slimy. any signs of red or green algea are bad. if you notice the slimy feeling, soak them in bleach water for a little while. make sure you get any soaps washed out completely, as soaps can cause diahrea.

if you are using a medicated chick starter, try switching to medicated turkey starter, or an unmedicated starter. i can tell you for me (everyone's conditions are different) i have the best luck with nutrena unmedicated starter. other brands i have tried, purina, buckley brothers, triple trust, and whatever brand rural king sells.

when you said pullorum i questioned it, i know in our region its pretty rare in chickens. turkeys are the more common carrier according to Mike, the man who does our NPIP testing.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: see if anyone gets this one - how do eggs shipped in diapers hatch- depends.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: when the temps are 90 degrees in the daytime we have some problems like you have mentioned. i found (with my brooders) its best to take the heat lamps out and just put in 75-100 watt bulbs. also if im running 2 lamps in the same brooder (my brooders are 2 feet high and wide and 4 feet long) i take away one lamp.

other issues ive noticed, if you are using the quart or gallon automatic waterers, feel the inside and see if they feel slimy. any signs of red or green algea are bad. if you notice the slimy feeling, soak them in bleach water for a little while. make sure you get any soaps washed out completely, as soaps can cause diahrea.

if you are using a medicated chick starter, try switching to medicated turkey starter, or an unmedicated starter. i can tell you for me (everyone's conditions are different) i have the best luck with nutrena unmedicated starter. other brands i have tried, purina, buckley brothers, triple trust, and whatever brand rural king sells.

when you said pullorum i questioned it, i know in our region its pretty rare in chickens. turkeys are the more common carrier according to Mike, the man who does our NPIP testing.
I was just reading about bedding, some people use sand in the brooders, I think its not a good idea during the first week or so, I read that the different stuff can live in the sand??? anyone read anything on this? cocci can come in it as well as some other illnesses like such. I was told by my friend who is a loooong time dog breeder that I shouldn't use sand like some people do in the puppy pens (not that I would use it in my livingroom lol) but she said she has heard of outbreaks of cocci as well as giardia during its use. I read a lot as I am searching for more ways to keep my puppy area clean because of so many pups and poops! 10 more days and they will go to their new families, heartbreaking days ahead!

 

[chicksooner]

I was just reading about bedding, some people use sand in the brooders, I think its not a good idea during the first week or so, I read that the different stuff can live in the sand??? anyone read anything on this? cocci can come in it as well as some other illnesses like such. I was told by my friend who is a loooong time dog breeder that I shouldn't use sand like some people do in the puppy pens (not that I would use it in my livingroom lol) but she said she has heard of outbreaks of cocci as well as giardia during its use. I read a lot as I am searching for more ways to keep my puppy area clean because of so many pups and poops! 10 more days and they will go to their new families, heartbreaking days ahead!

I used sand in a brooder once. The only problem I had with it was the poops were so tiny that they would go right thru my sifter. So it was hard to keep clean. Even with it getting nasty didn't have any other problems. I switched back to pine shavings as it is a lot lighter to deal with. I am old and the back can't keep working so hard. I would think as long as it is dry and kept clean then you shouldn't have any problems. Pretty much like any bedding.

 

[familypendragon]

when the temps are 90 degrees in the daytime we have some problems like you have mentioned.  i found (with my brooders) its best to take the heat lamps out and just put in 75-100 watt bulbs. also if im running 2 lamps in the same brooder (my brooders are 2 feet high and wide and 4 feet long) i take away one lamp.

other issues ive noticed, if you are using the quart or gallon automatic waterers, feel the inside and see if they feel slimy. any signs of red or green algea are bad. if you notice the slimy feeling, soak them in bleach water for a little while. make sure you get any soaps washed out completely, as soaps can cause diahrea.

if you are using a medicated chick starter, try switching to medicated turkey starter, or an unmedicated starter.  i can tell you for me (everyone's conditions are different) i have the best luck with nutrena unmedicated starter. other brands i have tried, purina, buckley brothers, triple trust, and whatever brand rural king sells.

when you said pullorum i questioned it, i know in our region its pretty rare in chickens. turkeys are the more common carrier according to Mike, the man who does our NPIP testing.

Thank you for the info. Only one of these ever made it to the brooder - and only briefly before dropping dead All my other chicks not from this batch of eggs were fine (knock on wood still are). The brooder has a thermometer and it is 95 in the warm end. I use a nipple waterer. I refill it about twice a day. I definitely think the problem came way before the brooder :/

 

[familypendragon]

I was just reading about bedding, some people use sand in the brooders, I think its not a good idea during the first week or so, I read that the different stuff can live in the sand???  anyone read anything on this? cocci can come in it as well as some other illnesses like such. I was told by my friend who is a loooong time dog breeder that I shouldn't use sand like some people do in the puppy pens (not that I would use it in my livingroom lol) but she said she has heard of outbreaks of cocci as well as giardia during its use. I read a lot as I am searching for more ways to keep my puppy area clean because of so many pups and poops! 10 more days and they will go to their new families, heartbreaking days ahead!

In my brooder I have a layer of large pine shavings, then a layer of the stuff they make that goes under carpets to make it not slip (it has holes so air and pee can pass through the rubber to the pine shavings but chicks can't get to the shavings), then on top I lay double thickness of paper towels which I change out about every 2 hours. I don't use medicated feed as I've read its really ineffective, and I don't like the idea of mass medicating without cause because I feel like 1. it isn't good for them and 2. it builds up possible resistant germs. I keep Corid on hand though and hope I never have to use it. All this is stuff I learned her on BYC

 

[familypendragon]

Hey Sally - don't these look awesome! http://www.rarebreedauctions.com/au...chicks-lfdan-powell-day-old&auction_id=115273

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Hey Sally - don't these look awesome! http://www.rarebreedauctions.com/au...chicks-lfdan-powell-day-old&auction_id=115273

I always think the faces look weird with that odd coloring, I am weird I know, plus they don't have the leg feathering a brahma should have, they get these breeds mix matching breeds and sometimes its very hard for them to fix certain issues as they try to make new colors. I am a picky person and the legs alone would halt me, if its one thing besides size that is amazing with the brahma its the legs and feathering of a great bird. Not that powell doesn't make some cool stuff, these 2 are not a favorite and I couldn't buy a bird on color/s alone unless its chartreuse or something lol

you can compare leg feathering and stuff in my images on prof or in my shhtuff page in my siggy. Not that my birds are king of brahma but it will give you an idea of what I am talking about....

 

[sumi]

I was just reading about bedding, some people use sand in the brooders, I think its not a good idea during the first week or so, I read that the different stuff can live in the sand??? anyone read anything on this? cocci can come in it as well as some other illnesses like such. I was told by my friend who is a loooong time dog breeder that I shouldn't use sand like some people do in the puppy pens (not that I would use it in my livingroom lol) but she said she has heard of outbreaks of cocci as well as giardia during its use. I read a lot as I am searching for more ways to keep my puppy area clean because of so many pups and poops! 10 more days and they will go to their new families, heartbreaking days ahead!

Mix DE with the sand and be careful where you buy it from? Have you read this (probably!):

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/751747/sand-in-the-brooder-its-worth-it

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/632218/sand-in-brooder

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/765082/switched-to-sand-in-brooder

Good luck with the pups

I used to hate it when the time came to sell ours. It's so easy to grow attached to them.

 

[familypendragon]

My favorite Blue Isbar (who is actually my black Isbar) hurt her leg and is limping. I just put her in the brooder with the babies to keep her from making it worse. They babies are all hiding under her and she is letting them. She is so sweet.