Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[Toast n Jelly]

Quote: Bio-security is the most important thing along with making sure, if you take in chickens, that they were not vaccinated against ILT with a live vaccine. Apparently a modified vaccine is safe.
Still no guaranty that they won't get it from wild bird droppings.
It is in the lungs and birds cough up blood. Takes about 3 days to kill them as one by one they come down with it. A very miserable death and that's why it took so long for me to get back into it. I suggest you google it for more info.

 

[cochins1088]

Quote: Bio-security is the most important thing along with making sure, if you take in chickens, that they were not vaccinated against ILT with a live vaccine. Apparently a modified vaccine is safe.
Still no guaranty that they won't get it from wild bird droppings.
It is in the lungs and birds cough up blood. Takes about 3 days to kill them as one by one they come down with it. A very miserable death and that's why it took so long for me to get back into it. I suggest you google it for more info.

I'm so sorry that you had to go through this. I wanted to buy birds from a breeder who vaccines against ILT, but after researching this disease, I quickly changed my mind.

From what I remember, the chicken embryo origin and tissue culture origin ILT vaccines make birds carriers of the disease. Recombinant ILT vaccines don't.

Like you said, bio-security is of up most important, but that doesn't mean that you're 100% safe. It can be brought in through wild birds.


Being that you have already been through this, do you vaccinate your current birds? If so, which vaccine do you use?

 

[dolfi]

I'm so sorry that you had to go through this. I wanted to buy birds from a breeder who vaccines against ILT, but after researching this disease, I quickly changed my mind.

From what I remember, the chicken embryo origin and tissue culture origin ILT vaccines make birds carriers of the disease. Recombinant ILT vaccines don't.

Like you said, bio-security is of up most important, but that doesn't mean that you're 100% safe.  It can be brought in through wild birds.


Being that you have already been through this, do you vaccinate your current birds? If so, which vaccine do you use?

funny I thought these chicks were safe cause I paid extra for them to vaccinate them for marehk.

 

[cochins1088]

funny I thought these chicks were safe cause I paid extra for them to vaccinate them for marehk.

Check out this link. http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps030

It talks about whether or not to vaccinate small flocks and it lists many of the diseases that have vaccines available.

Edited to add: I wouldn't treat all of the information in the above link as fact, but it's a great place to start.

 

[dolfi]

So I keep humidity at 30 to 35 for the 18 days, my air cells looks small for lockdown. Did I do it right? Maybe I am over reacting

 

[cochins1088]

So I keep humidity at 30 to 35 for the 18 days, my air cells looks small for lockdown. Did I do it right? Maybe I am over reacting

Did you ever weigh your eggs?

If not, can you post pictures of the air cells?

If they are small, you should remove all of the water immediately and don't raise the humidity until there are internal pips.

 

[Toast n Jelly]

Quote: Bio-security is the most important thing along with making sure, if you take in chickens, that they were not vaccinated against ILT with a live vaccine. Apparently a modified vaccine is safe.
Still no guaranty that they won't get it from wild bird droppings.
It is in the lungs and birds cough up blood. Takes about 3 days to kill them as one by one they come down with it. A very miserable death and that's why it took so long for me to get back into it. I suggest you google it for more info.

I'm so sorry that you had to go through this. I wanted to buy birds from a breeder who vaccines against ILT, but after researching this disease, I quickly changed my mind.

From what I remember, the chicken embryo origin and tissue culture origin ILT vaccines make birds carriers of the disease. Recombinant ILT vaccines don't.

Like you said, bio-security is of up most important, but that doesn't mean that you're 100% safe. It can be brought in through wild birds.


Being that you have already been through this, do you vaccinate your current birds? If so, which vaccine do you use?

No I don't vaccinate and if I did it would be with the modified vaccine.

 

[Toast n Jelly]

Quote:
The mareks vaccine is quite safe and has nothing to do with the ILT vaccine. Two different deseasses.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: Bio-security is the most important thing along with making sure, if you take in chickens, that they were not vaccinated against ILT with a live vaccine. Apparently a modified vaccine is safe.
Still no guaranty that they won't get it from wild bird droppings.
It is in the lungs and birds cough up blood. Takes about 3 days to kill them as one by one they come down with it. A very miserable death and that's why it took so long for me to get back into it. I suggest you google it for more info.
And I cant find it for sale!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

So I keep humidity at 30 to 35 for the 18 days, my air cells looks small for lockdown. Did I do it right? Maybe I am over reacting

Dolfi remember what I said, Humidity is NOT a number. and if I ran 30-35 I would have big wet chicks. why? because of the high humidity here even with the coal stove going right now...

If your not weighing, you need to watch air cells, and ONLY USE HUMIDITY AS A TOOL, NEVER a number.

What I do is only add a tad, LIKE A SMALL 1"x 1" dish of water, ONLY IF the humidity gauge reads below 18% during the first week and then pencil air cells and compare to the drawings at day 7,10,14 and 18. I am always picking up eggs and candling to check the air cells and more than those times listed. I have a good feel for them at this point, you will get there too the more you incubate. If the air cell looks good, I change nothing (I leave the dish) if it looks too small I remove that little container, most times I have NO WATER in the bator until at least day 14.. It all depends on your area and humidity levels.