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I may have worked that one out - it is easier to toss it back into the dirty laundry than actually put it away properly. :barnie

What I wish to know is how they get pants they haven't been able to fit for a good three years into the laundry.


How it happened with us is:
Try on item
Drop rejected item
Move to next item
Everything on floor goes to laundry
Repeat
 
Did you know I just ordered my almost a teenager, a "I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example" t-shirt.

He's gonna make a horrible face when he sees it, then laugh and go "yeah, that sounds like me." and love it.

He's a turd, but I love him.

You just wait til your daughter will reach the "stupidity " point!
Teenage Boys are pure honey compare to teenage girls!


Hey Benny,
I know you Iike to give people advise, well here are some of my thoughts re teenagers (having just "done" 3 of them and two of them girls, and vividly rembering -with sadness - my own relationship with my father).

Teenagers actually listen to their parents far more than they let on, but having spent 12 years being told what to do, they like to be asked their opinion, especially when it relates to them. The older they get the truer this is.

Parents carry on as if their teens are still kids and all dissent is seen as stupidity (especially authoritarian parents, who enjoy being in charge), not on purpose though.

Parents are slow to believe that their kids have equally valid thought processes. Especially fathers do not like thinking that their little girls are growing up, and that they may be loosing total control or influence over them.

This lack of respect for the teens' opinion leads to resentment and push back, which is tragic at such an important time in their lives, and leads to the teen desperate to leave home at 18 to get away from overbearing parents.

I tried not to repeat my fathers mistakes (though DH took some persuading), and this has resulted in relatively little strife and college kids who can't wait to come home at any opportunity.

I don't give advice(only if have been asked )I just share thought and my personal experience.
I have past it once with the older and now again with the second, every one is different, no general rule there.
Agree about the independence but, I think that they can't get "carad blanch" on every thing they want to do, they HAVE to prove that they know how to do the Right thing! And if you aske what is the right thing, the answer is very simple the PARENTS decide according to their moral, educational, theological and other, values! I as a parent drow the border lines and let them, GRADUALLY (= mor older more independence and more responsibility! ) to carve their way within this border lines!


I was not talking about carte blanch to do anything they wanted. Not at all. It is more of a mental thing such that they believe that they are being listened to and that their opinion matters and is respected. Of course as a parent we need to ultimately do what is best for our kids which will not always be what they want.

Agree completely, but IMHO they have to EARNE that! They have to prove judgment, logic, and moral values, (yes moral!) In their decision-making process, to be considered as adults and independent individuals.
(And I ment "carte blanche" :lol:)
 
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Did you know I just ordered my almost a teenager, a "I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example" t-shirt.

He's gonna make a horrible face when he sees it, then laugh and go "yeah, that sounds like me." and love it.

He's a turd, but I love him.

You just wait til your daughter will reach the "stupidity " point!
Teenage Boys are pure honey compare to teenage girls!


Hey Benny,
I know you Iike to give people advise, well here are some of my thoughts re teenagers (having just "done" 3 of them and two of them girls, and vividly rembering -with sadness - my own relationship with my father).

Teenagers actually listen to their parents far more than they let on, but having spent 12 years being told what to do, they like to be asked their opinion, especially when it relates to them. The older they get the truer this is.

Parents carry on as if their teens are still kids and all dissent is seen as stupidity (especially authoritarian parents, who enjoy being in charge), not on purpose though.

Parents are slow to believe that their kids have equally valid thought processes. Especially fathers do not like thinking that their little girls are growing up, and that they may be loosing total control or influence over them.

This lack of respect for the teens' opinion leads to resentment and push back, which is tragic at such an important time in their lives, and leads to the teen desperate to leave home at 18 to get away from overbearing parents.

I tried not to repeat my fathers mistakes (though DH took some persuading), and this has resulted in relatively little strife and college kids who can't wait to come home at any opportunity.

I don't give advice(only if have been asked )I just share thought and my personal experience.
I have past it once with the older and now again with the second, every one is different, no general rule there.
Agree about the independence but, I think that they can't get "carad blanch" on every thing they want to do, they HAVE to prove that they know how to do the Right thing! And if you aske what is the right thing, the answer is very simple the PARENTS decide according to their moral, educational, theological and other, values! I as a parent drow the border lines and let them, GRADUALLY (= mor older more independence and more responsibility! ) to carve their way within this border lines!


I was not talking about carte blanch to do anything they wanted. Not at all. It is more of a mental thing such that they believe that they are being listened to and that their opinion matters and is respected. Of course as a parent we need to ultimately do what is best for our kids which will not always be what they want.

Agree completely, but IMHO they have to EARNE that! They have to prove judgment, logic, and moral values, (yes moral!) In their decision-making process, to be considered as adults and independent individuals.
(And I ment "carte blanche" :lol:)


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